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I would pay for YouTube Premium, like I had been when I was a student ($7.99/month), but I’m not a student anymore and they want $19 a month. Fuck no.

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$19? I don’t see that option

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Subscribing through the iOS YouTube app is $19 because of Apple’s cut. He might mean that?

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Apple tacks on another 50%? That seems high.

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easy fix: don’t use the app on your phone.

instead use youtube via your browser with adblock (for instance safari + adblock pro) and create a shortcut on your homescreen. you can use youtube just like in the app, you won’t have any ads and you also can play videos with your screen turned off

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Does that have the address bar taking up space on the top of the screen? That seems like the downside. I prefer revanced, but I can understand that some people don’t want to install anything.

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safaris address bar is at the bottom and also hides automatically…so no.

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And on firefox you get to choose whether you want it up top or down below.

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Or just use patches or alternative YouTube clients

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why installing something when you just can use your browser and get basically the same experience?

Also those apps will be useless when they mess around with the api just like reddit did.

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why installing something when you just can use your browser and get basically the same experience?

Because it’s absolutely not the same experience?

Also those apps will be useless when they mess around with the api just like reddit did.

They break all the time but they always fix them. LibreTube has been broken for the past few days but they’ll fix it soon enough.

E: LibreTube is fixed temporarily by switching to HLS.

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Because the browser sucks more

A dedicated app is prettier, more functional, and (feels) faster than Firefox + Ublock or Newpipe, actually plays in the background (seamlessly, I might add… looking at you, Newpipe), and allows for more player options.

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these apps do not use any official API. if they used it, they would be obliged to comply with the terms of services that most likely force them to show ads or track the users or some other bullshit.

of course these unofficial viewers break from time to time, but in my experience they have been super quick releasing patches fixing it and the user experience is way way better than the official web or app. Fast UI without bloat, no ads, no algorithms, etc.

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I hate web apps and electron for performance (incl. memory) reasons and the gestures are simply better in the app, not to mention Haptic Touch and crashing due to out of memory on iOS

On the API, that’s why I use a patched client. YouTube isn’t that aggressive with pushing new versions so you install a patched version of the old version like uYouPlusExtra

Also, even when the address bar is hidden in Safari, there’s a much smaller but still existent bar

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It’s okay to have alternatives. I use NewPipe, Firefox+uBlock and sometimes a YouTube ReVanced app.

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why installing something

I don’t watch YT a lot on my phone, but Freetube for desktop and Newpipe for android (F-Droid) support offline subscriptions, playlists, history and downloads of video or audio, background playback and you can sync both apps.

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How’s sponsor block?

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I wouldn’t be surprised if in the near future they make it so the only way to watch Youtube on mobile is through their app. It seems like they’re getting desperate, and that seems like the logical conclusion.

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I really hope not. Otherwise that would be the end for me. Same as reddit I simply would delete my account and uninstall everything related to it :)

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Ad blocker still works. They really want people to stop using YouTube though, don’t they.

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It doesn’t work for me, on my PC I can only use freetube. YouTube doesn’t work with ublock origin.

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If you’re using an ad-blocker or skipping ads, yes, they absolutely don’t give a shit if you stop using it, because you provide zero value to them and are only consuming their resources.

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Your metadata is still extremely valuable to them, and it’s not limited to just watch history and likes, but rather everything on how you engage in their services, including where your mouse cursor sits.

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^ mostly this. Ad revenue from watched ads isnt all of their income, not even close

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Parroting the angry me Yorker whose name I forgot. If you use an ad blocker your likely privacy aware and they don’t get much/any meta data from you.

Also YouTube is extremely costly to run. They are making it abundantly clear you are not valuable to them if you aren’t watching ads. You aren’t that important.

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The real problem is that barriers to entry for competition are insurmountable.

If I wanna compete, I gotta host those files somewhere. With Google, Amazon, or Microsoft. That’s basically my whole list of options.

I mean, I can opt to do it myself, but… That’s beyond David v Goliath. No way I could manage the amount of spam, CSA, DMCA, terrorism/misinformation and other shit that would seek to take the competition out.

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The other reason why it’s impossible is simply that nobody would upload their genuine content to your site because it doesn’t get as much “engagement” as on YouTube. Social inertia is why YouTube can pretty much do whatever the fuck they want and people will stay.

Twitch is the same thing for livestreams. Not even Facebook using fuck-you money to literally buy exclusivity contracts with streamers could change that. People just didn’t want to watch there (although I can understand their reluctance).

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ADs? What ADs?

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good thing i use revanced 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍📌

edit: not the pin

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My revanced has been out of date and non functional for a while, do you happen to recall how to update it? For some reason I’m struggling to remember the install process.

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If your rooted you can use magisk and just hunt down the revanced magisk zip.

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BTW if you can only find the magisk apk rename the apk to .zip and you can fastboot flash to boot.

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Alternatively I use Newpipe and testing Grayjay.

grayjay.app

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If your rooted you can use magisk and just hunt down the revanced magisk zip.

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Revanced APKs - Automated builds and distribution of ReVanced apps (unofficial):

https://github.com/revanced-apks

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If you don’t want to deal with that, NewPipe is pretty good. I’ve been using it for a bit and love it.

Can be found on f-droid or from their website

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apks are not the best idea even from trusted sites. There’s probably a telegram link for it. I use the extended version which has some extra goodies: https://t.me/s/revanced_extended

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Personally I use revanced extended from GitHub. It’s got additional options and they release an APK, so I just download and install

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Huh. My solution (for years now) has been to kill the YouTube ap entirely and watch videos on Firefox with uBlock Origin.

I may have to see if Revanced is a better experience.

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Used to do that but recently switched over to ReVanced because Firefox pip would just show the corner of the webpage sometimes, or when I go to fullscreen the app would close, so I’d have to go back on Firefox again and fullscreen twice because the first time I fullscreen it doesn’t auto-rotate

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get a newer YouTube apk, install and then patch. the same way you install it in the first place. you reminded me that I need to do the same

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i thought the pin indicated a blood offering for a second

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XD

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