Here’s a link.
Does it fail as satire? Does this kind of thing work as good satire for specific people? Somebody explain.
i think that “satire requires a clarity of purpose blah blah blah” meme is the product of diseased minds. some people are just stupid, especially nazis. art isn’t supposed to force everyone to have the one correct reaction to it and if it can’t do that it’s failed.
but also this is way late for them to start doing something about the nazi problem in the community.
Some nazis are just stupid and don’t understand that this depiction is not an endorsement, but there’s a good proportion (don’t know the percentage) that are doing the “yes, but unironically” thing. The 40k lore is conductive to this because as the GW’s statement points outs it’s not a “ha-ha” kind of satire.
there are no goodies
I always liked the Tau but I never got further than painting some figures and playing one or two skirmishes with a friend. Do the Tau suck in some way?
Wait do you have a link? Sorry I’m lazy googlewise but you’re saying they aren’t buddhist trots anymore?
I’m not too deep into 40k lore, but I think it ended up being something along the line of classic anti-communist brainworms, about how any good ideology is actually just a smokescreen so a small elite can rule over everyone with lies and manipulation, because obviously a society couldn’t actually pursue a noble goal without there being an ulterior motive. Also, collectivism bad, individualism good, Tau bad for disrespecting :freeze-peach: and forcing ideology on others.
Absolutely fails in its current state. If there’s anyone responsible for attracting fascists to it, it’s GW for for the way it’s depicted the Imperium for decades.
Also, apparently chuds were mad when a recent book had a black ultramarine on the cover. But as far as i know this is literallly the first black person ever pictured in warhammer art. You’re telling me that humanity has spread to thousands of planets with a population of trillions and everyone is just a white british guy with an aquilline nose?
But as far as i know this is literallly the first black person ever pictured in warhammer art
It’s not the first, 40k art is white as low fat mayonnaise, but like, 5% of the human artwork is of black people.
One of the Emperor’s 20 sons, Vulkan He’stan is black, as are the Salamanders, his legion and all of their successor chapters.
They’ve got their own their own models rules and lore books with pictures of them on the front cover.
There was a recent series of 40k childrens books called Warhammer adventures chuds got big mad about that had a black child protagonist featured on the cover art.
And just generally in the 40k lore and art when they’re depicting humans some are depicted as black.
In universe it’s shown as everyone’s too busy hating aliens and mutants to be properly racist to other humans. What’s really problematic, and a big part of the reason why 40k has so much appeal to fascists, is that the imperium’s extreme violent xenophobia towards aliens, mutants and people with different religions is typically portrayed as wise and justified. There is orders of magnitude more 40k media about the Imperium’s extreme xenophobia saving billions of people from horrible deaths than there isof it causing problems or biting the imperium in the arse. It’s often portrayed as horrible, there’s a lot of “we firebombed this entire city of innocent people to kill 1 (one) genuinely dangerous heretic” or “if you fail in your mission space marine we will have no choice but to glass the entire planet from orbit” but it’s not portrayed as ineffective. It’s generally shown that if that one heretic was allowed to live or the mission failed then the entire planet or star sector would die such horrible deaths they would be begging us for the swift release of an orbital bombardment we would no longer be capable of delivering 😔.
Which is the sort of strength and sacrifice, death before dishonour, murder 100 to save 1000, hard men making hard choices slop fascists absolutely adore, so of course they love 40k and games workshop, being spineless capitalists, are more than happy to feed into it and write a once satirical anti fascist piece of media entirely unsatirically so long as they don’t have to engage with real life fascism. This statement is nice, but unless they seriously re-evaluate how they present fascists (as cool horribly effective ubermensch who do WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE) they’re not going to impact the portion of their audience that is fascist or their ideologically based enjoyment of the media Games Workshop is putting out.
I’m not really into 40k, but my group to played the Dark Heresy ttrpg for a bit and I could never figure out how this kind of satire supposed to work. Like the book took pains to make Inquisition or Space Marines or whatever seem as cool as possible, not ridicule them. Novels and faction (?) books might be different, I dunno.
People on twitter are angry and calling GWS a “nazi bar”. Then again I know leftists who swear by the setting…
Yeah they have a real problem with the space marine fan boys, every fascist I’ve ever encountered who was into 40K played space marines because they obviously salivate over being “inherently superior” to the masses.
Playing Guard against them is very fun because exploding from a mortar round fired by some acne scarred teenage conscript is just about the funniest and least dignified end possible for their beloved immortal uber-soldiers.
Mfs out here playing Buzz Lightyear while I’m playing Stalingrad.
guard is great you get to be like those historically incorrect descriptions of the Soviet Union, sending unarmed masses to soak up the bullets with their cheap bodies while your commissars shoot everyone who even thinks of running away. Great fun.
I love that the Catachan have an officer fragging mechanic
For non 40K-Knowers, the Catachan are a Guard subfaction very obviously styled after US troops in Vietnam. If your army includes any commissars, you have to roll a die during deployment to see if they even make it to the battlefield. The rule is called Oops, sorry sir!
I could never figure out how this kind of satire supposed to work.
Judging by the letter, it doesn’t. But then people think I’m ridiculous for suggesting that maybe dressing up kids as storm troopers or Darth Vader isn’t the greatest idea. So what do I know?
I, too, am seriously creeped out by people who dress up as spacce nazis for funsies.
Seriously fucking weird shit. Like those storm trooper cosplay regiments. Wtf.
I think that even with GW literally spelling it out for them most of the cryptofascists who idolize it will carry on carrying on unperturbed.
What could work is to push a sessesion narative over this, to make the Nazis split from the main fandom and then fade to irrelevance. Like, seed the idea that this is going wrong and that they need their own even more fascist version that hardly nyon with a brain would support. Could keep em distracted though
