Hi all, I bought a gaming PC with the intention of installing Linux to play recent games. I chose AMD for the GPU because I know the drivers are more optimized on Linux.

After receiving and assembling my machine, I installed Fedora without any problem. I found a lot of software on Github to replace the proprietary software for my AIO and headphones. Everything worked the first time except… Steam! Unable to launch it, black window which restarted in a loop.

After searching on the internet, I found that it was enough to modify PrefersNonDefaultGPU on steam to solve my problem (but I understand that ordinary people do not want to bother with this kind of hack and prefer the windows experience that works out of the box).

Then I installed Cyberpunk and… well the game runs at 120fps in ultra, what more can I say… Oh yes, the keyboard preset is in Qwerty even though I have an azerty keyboard (sorry Baguette) and in the first hour of play, I was able to notice a bug in a rather disturbing shadow/light and in the drops of water on a windshield which appeared and disappeared in a strange way.

So with my €1500 machine I got a little upset… and I wanted to install Windows out of curiosity.

Installation is…complicated! No driver for my network card, a ton of software that I don’t need, in short, Windows…

I installed steam, launched Cyberpunk and… my keyboard is recognized, 120 fps too (I am offered raytracing which does not interest me and makes me lose fps but it is available) and in the first hour of play NONE bug.

So here I am, I hate Windows, but it runs my games better than Linux and I’m really lost. I’ve just discovered Nobara, I would have loved to try it but I’m tired of starting the first 3 hours of cyberpunk again and I’m convinced that I’ll have some graphical bugs with it.

(also another problem, there are too many Linux distributions, too much choice kills choice)

TDLD: I bought an expensive computer to play under Linux, but a few bugs made me reluctantly install Windows.

35 points

The Windows experience was worse, but at least your raindrops were rendered correctly.

It feels like you used a detail that you could not resolve to go back to the cozy arms of what you are familiar with.

And that’s OK. I also went back to Windows a few times until I felt at home in Linux.

Try it again sometime in the future and see if it fells more comfortable.

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Sounds like his Linux experience was worse?

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OP only has to force the dGPU to be used, and that’s it for Linux. For the azerty issue, the solution is usually to install qwerty as keyboard 1 and azerty as keyboard 2 and always use keyboard 2. I do that with Dvorak and most games work without needing remaps (though I’ll occasionally need to fiddle).

On Windows, OP needed to install drivers, which can be a massive pain, esp for Wi-Fi drivers. Also, most software needs to be installed individually, which can take a while vs Linux’s package manager. For me, a typical install of Linux takes about 30-45 min from installation media to having all my software installed, whereas on Windows it’s like 1-2 hours because I have to go track down every installer I need, find drivers, disable a bunch of privacy-violating stuff, etc.

So the net result was:

  • azerty issue - easy fix
  • rendering issue - imo, sounds minor, and it’s probably just that game; maybe fixable by tweaking in game settings

Not bad for running a Windows game on a completely different platform.

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Installing WiFi drivers on Windows is actually very weird. I’ve never had to do that. Not with a dongle, not with a brand new motherboard with built-in WiFi.

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Linux isn’t for everyone, but jumping in on fedora might not have been the best choice. Give Pop! OS a shot. It’s a more balanced experience.

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Fedora is pretty straight forward as an os for newbies, main benefit that popos has is installing Nvidia drivers

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Yup. The only issues I had going from Ubuntu to Fedora was finding drivers, and that was solved with a few minutes of searching online.

I don’t use either anymore and getting NVIDIA setup hasn’t been an issue. I used Arch for a few years (just install a couple packages and reboot), and I use OpenSUSE now (just install a couple packages and reboot). It’s not a difficult problem to solve.

Maybe Pop!_OS would’ve solved the graphics switching issue and azerty keyboard thing (probably not), but the rendering thing would very likely be the same as on Fedora since it’s likely related to GPU drivers and Proton, which the distro has no control over.

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Any KDE environment is much easier to get into for Windows users than those Gnome / Apple type of desktop environments.

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Yes, do as I say! :P

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Windows also doesn’t work out of the box like you demonstrated in your post, people are just familiar with how to get it working. Like, Linux isn’t more complicated than Windows, it’s just both complicated and unfamiliar to a lot of people.

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Yup. Imo, Linux has a better OOTB experience than Windows since most drivers are already part of the kernel (esp if you buy an AMD GPU). If you only need basic software (web browser, office suite, etc), you’ll be good with any major Linux distro after a default install.

The complexity of Linux only really comes into play if you run into issues, like some hardware isn’t properly recognized/supported (frequent on cheap laptops, esp WiFi and sound), or you need specific Windows software.

That said, if you know both systems well, I think Linux is easier. It’s usually just tweaking a config file or setting up a third party repo and installing a propriety driver. And that can be nearly completely avoided by being careful when buying hardware, and knowing what to avoid takes some experience.

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Dunno bro everything works for me on mint. I also have higher frame rates and better stability. Getting Stable Diffusion working on my AMD card is probably the hardest thing i have had to do. Even that is three lines in the terminal now. You may need to dick around with proton settings and read the forums to find what Cyberpunk runs on best if you want to deal with the bug.

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It works on AMD GPUs now? Or just the latest gen?

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I’m using Stable Diffusion on my 6000 series card and it works fine. Obviously a lot slower than Nvidia cards, but definitely usable.

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Is there an up do date installation instruction for it that doesn’t require some higher degrees in terminal magic? The last time I checked, which wasn’t too long ago, I just stopped bothering when reading halfway through.

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I’ve been using it the last couple days on a 7800xt. It works but has been fairly unstable. Hopefully that’s just new hardware driver problems that will get sorted out eventually.

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There’s also Ameliorated which helps debloat hour Windows and 9/10 times get a better experience using it. There’s different playbooks which help optimise to the experience you like (eg. gaming). Could give it a try :)

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Is this a good route to improve privacy in Windows

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It’s not 100% private because Windows, but it certainly improves it a LOT. But do mind that it comes with a security vulnerability as Windows defender is also removed and you’re left on your own. So no shady downloads, unknown pdfs, or whatever harmful there may be. 3rd party ‘anti-virus’ software is also explained on their FAQ page, which you should check out before continuing :)

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