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Yep. They really doubled down on privacy/security and it’s pretty admirable. The President doesn’t use an android or a blackberry for a reason. (Well, two in the case of blackberry. Security and existing). If only there were no other problematic areas of Apple’s business (manufacturing, wages, environmental impact).
Can’t wait for them to put their money where their mouth is and do the same in China and other large population countries that demand the same thing 😂
They’re hypocrites though. Branding themselves as privacy focused and in some cases actually being that too but at the same time also scanning your photos and messages and reporting to authorities/parents if there something inappropriate.
Inb4 no need to worry if you have nothing to hide -argument
Ok…so I’m aware there is a feature “check for sensitive media” that parents can turn on and AI can send an alert to you if it seems like your kid might be texting nude pics….only works with iMessage since apple doesn’t have access to photos in other apps. No human sees the photos. But that isn’t the same as what you’re saying and I don’t know if what you’re saying is accurate.
This is one thing Apple has been pretty firm on. You can’t have a secure product and have backdoors. You can try to hide them all you want, but a backdoor will always be a massive security vulnerability.
They moved the storage of encryption keys for Chinese users to servers in China instead of shutting down iMessage and Facetime. Quite the different response compared to here.
I was assuming Apple was posturing until they’d actually have to do something.
They could well have postured in China as well, before backtracking. I have no Idea if that happened, but it seems reasonable from a PR vs Legal vs business development standpoint.
They moved the storage of encryption keys for Chinese users to servers in China instead of shutting down iMessage and Facetime.
These are totally separate things. Apple users in China can still use iMessage and FaceTime and those are still end-to-end encrypted. If you choose to store your iMessages in iCloud, those can be accessed by the government, but that’s the same as they can in every other country. The UK’s proposal is to directly break the security of iMessage itself, something worse than what China has done.
They moved the storage of encryption keys for Chinese users to servers in China
No they didn’t. iMessage can only be decrypted by keys stored in the secure enclave on your device.
There are some things that the Chinese government can access. The contents of messages isn’t one of them.
And as for Facetime… those calls aren’t recorded at all. Not sure how a legal order is supposed to allow access to data that doesn’t even exist.
I agree that’s not how it works in most places but I don’t assume to know the inner working of a Chinese iphone or the version of iOS it’s running. If there is a financial incentive apple will bend for China while also saying it didn’t.
Good on them for standing up for what’s right on this.
Not really. Apple’s track record for this kind of thing is pretty great. See also, the San Bernardino case.
Apple doesn’t like be told what to do.
If privacy is in the way of their desires then Apple will invade their user’s privacy. They don’t stand for privacy.
Seems like you’re spewing FUD to me, mostly. I agree Apple is far from perfect, but they literally introduced an e2e methodology for much of iCloud data recently.
Besides, even if they are only doing this out of selfish desire, it’s still a good thing for the consumers in this case.
Has everyone forgotten about Apples plan to scan every single photo uploaded to iCloud for harmful content? They can and will destroy any semblance of privacy for the right reason.
I believe proprietary software gives unjust power over users and so Apple making a good change (even if it were sincere benevolence) is still in that content.
Good, why should they comprise security. It makes it easier for everyone to hack, not just the government
21st century govenrments: Hey guys, why don’t we ban math?
Yeah good luck with that. Gotta give it to Apple on this one, though I’m not a huge fan of their business practices otherwise.
