Speaking at a campaign event in Iowa, Trump said it was important to scrutinize the vote in the battleground states likely to determine the general election. He singled out the biggest cities in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Georgia.
“So the most important part of what’s coming up is to guard the vote. And you should go into Detroit and you should go into Philadelphia and you should go into some of these places, Atlanta,” Trump said in Ankeny, a suburb of Des Moines.
Trump’s comments foreshadow what is likely to be a contentious election in November 2024. Despite the failure of dozens of lawsuits filed by Trump and his allies challenging the outcome in 2020, Trump continues to claim, without evidence, that he lost to U.S. President Joe Biden due to fraud.
Trump is going to get a bunch of his followers killed.
One can only hope…
Edit: I feel compelled to make it clear that I don’t want anyone to die due to political violence. However, if someone has to die I would prefer it be those who seem hell-bent on undermining the democratic process.
Probably. But for every Trump fascist getting arrested or making a video “patrolling” a ballot box drop-off, for every fascist getting killed, those are huge news stories that will make voters reconsider if it’s even safe to vote. It’ll have a massive chilling effect on voters who aren’t obvious Trump supporters. Which is the point: fear.
Pussies create fear. All trump voters are pussies, and so is trump himself.
Should their vote count if they voted early, but die before their vote counted?
Yes, they should be. But it depends on the state. That’s specifically for mail-in ballots.
In California, it’s an issue of fairness to count ballots cast by people who then die before election day, Secretary of State Alex Padilla said. He said it’s just as conceivable that someone who votes early in person also dies before election day, and there is no way to identify and reject that ballot.
So, voter intimidation. They want people to be afraid to even show up.
What a funny thing to do right after a judge announces he does NOT have immunity.
To everyone who called Trump a Nazi seven years ago, I owe you all an apology for dismissing your concerns as hyperbole, because I legitimately thought this guy was saying outrageous shit just to rile up the Republican crowd and clinch the Republican nomination against all odds.
After what happened with Jan 6th, it seems Donald is hell-bent on usurping democracy and bringing about the Fourth Reich, and now I’m seriously worried that America is going to sleepwalk straight into Fascism.
2021 should have been a wake-up call.
I appreciate that. Now take notice of all the people who know that trump is sleepwalking us into fascism but think that defending against it is stupid, barbaric and wrong. This place and Reddit are both full of people parroting the same thing that the Warsaw ghetto victims did.
And with all you said, and the evidence we have of Trump being a fascist, people will still not vote Biden as a “symbolic act”. We may have a hellish few years coming ahead of us.
A good chunk of the accounts I see posting those comments are probably bots judging by their post histories. You’d either have to be in favor of a fascist dictatorship or willfully ignorant at this point not to vote for Biden. I don’t like Biden or most of the Democrats, but Republicans have done little to nothing for Americans that are not rich. At least with Democrats there’s a sliver of a chance with future generations that we’ll get more than a shitty two party system, with Republicans now there won’t be anything but regression and fear mongering.
Here are 5 reasons why people don’t vote. None of these are “a symbolic act”.
I am referring to all the individuals who are saying they won’t vote for Biden in the next election as a protest vote. People would can or have voted for him in past, or in an election. I am not talking about disenfranchised individuals but people privileged enough to throw their vote, and countery, away.
I am making the argument America will be much worst if Republicans take helm. The chances of not being able to vote again is way too high. If people really care about Palestinian people and not virtue signaling, then they will agree that Trump or any Republican would make it worse.
Well, Biden got the “not-Trump” vote last time but he’s shat the bed with the Israel thing.
If you think that whole ‘Israel thing’ is going to get better with a literal facist in charge - you’re a moron.
Fascism and dictatorships are not good for business. International trading partners won’t want anything to do with businesses located in the United States if this happens. A democracy provides a trustable and reassuring legal framework to ensure stability of contracts. International complaints are not going to be upheld under a Trump government.
This is why everyone knows you don’t do business with China.
Although if you have to have a dictator I suppose Donald Trump is probably the best dictator since he and his staff are regularly outwit by squirrels and things found growing under stones.
damn Poe’s law, I can’t tell if your serious and stupid or just making a joke.
as I’m sitting here, with my phone made in Chinese sweatshops
*you’re
when calling other people stupid, it is best to know basic grammar. Just a tip!
Sounds like he’s hoping thugs will show up and scare some people into not voting in states he’d probably have lost?
It’s “sounds like he’s hoping” they will the same way he was “hoping” they would assault the Capitol. He told them to do it in thinly veiled language.
I think its more heckling poll station workers and brown people, but yeah.
Right people make fun but this is a longer term strategy to make the poll workers quit so they can be replaced with actual fascists who will actually shred ballots of anyone who looks too Democrat.
I don’t really understand how the US voting system works. But if enough people in states he would have lost decide “Fuck it, not worth the risk of going out to vote”, even if that includes people who would have voted for him, would that benefit him? Reducing voter turnout across the board in states he’d have lost? Legit curious if that might be his goal or if that makes no sense.
When fewer people vote, Republicans tend to win. They’ve even outright admitted this at times. This is why so many Republicans are in favor of enacting rules that limit voter participation. If the Republicans can prevent enough people from exercising their right to vote, then they might win. If too many legal voters cast their ballots, the Democrats will win - and that can’t be allowed!
To this day, Trump claims that he actually won in New York and California, among other safe blue states. Fit the record, the last time NY went red was 1984 and the last time California went red was 1988.
Trump’s convinced that there was “voter fraud” that turned those states blue, when they’ve been blue for over 30 years. He thinks that, if you removed all the “voter fraud,” he really won in every state.
My guess is that he thinks voting for a Democrat is voter fraud and wants his violent mobs to make sure no “voter fraud” takes place. If he’s elected President, I fear that we’ll still have elections, but in the way Russia holds elections. “Do you want to vote for Trump or do you want to be sent to prison?”
Exactly. We’d still have “elections” to “prove that we’re still free,” but it would be just for show. Even if you somehow didn’t face consequences for voting against Trump, your vote would be tossed for being voter fraud. (Because all votes against Trump would be called fraudulent.)
So it’s allowed to harass people who want to vote, but not allowed to hand out water to people who are in line waiting to vote?
It was a law Georgia added after Trump lost. Part of the “election integrity” things they were doing. People can literally wait hours in line at some voting locations. If they legislated that each precinct was required to regularly give out water to those in line, then it wouldn’t have been so bad. I believe it was a bad faith change.
It’s not that simple. Swing states have a divide between cities and rural counties. If you scare enough voters away in cities, those swing states become easier to win. It has nothing to do with the states he will lose, and everything to do with the ones he needs to win.
Problem here is people in cities don’t scare easily. If a rural mob of ppl comes rolling through my city policing the polls, its going to cause a huge shitshow but it won’t keep anyone from voting. Hell, it might drive turnout among some that were planning on not voting out of apathy. We city folk fight back. Trump sends his brownshirts here, they’ll get bloody noses at the very least.
4 years, no credible evidence (outside of the handful of republicans that were caught interfering with elections/ballot mail).
