Have we really become so unempathetic as a society that the act of putting yourself in others’ shoes is unbelievable to the point that people assume you must be part of the group you’re defending? So I often see people being unfairly discriminatory and mean to certain types, attributes or qualities of people, which I know some would be offended and hurt by. But whenever I stick up for them, I get comments like this: “Tell me you’re x without telling me you’re x”. “F*** off, x”. A good example is gay people or trans people. I get heavily criticised for defending them and people immediately assume that I’m gay or trans just because I’m expressing that I empathise with how they’re treated in society and think people should be kinder toward them. There are lots of other examples but I’m worried I’ll be antagonised here just by saying them, so I picked some slightly more socially acceptable ones (yes there are some far less socially acceptable things than LGBT these days, in my experience, despite the rampant LGBTphobia).

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This seems more like a rhetorical question than an actual question, since you’re mostly answering it yourself.

Are you actually looking for answers, or just making a point?

(I’m not saying your point is invalid, of course…)

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Honestly wondering why people do this (why people immediately assume you must be part of any group you’re defending). And I didn’t think I answered that, but maybe I did and I missed it

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Humans naturally try to categorize things.

…I think.

It’s almost like a yin and yang thing. Categorizing helps, but at the same time loses focus of the full spectrum.

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Polarization and an us-vs-them attitude has permeated the culture of the United States. IMO it’s one way the ruling elites keep us working class people too busy fighting each other to do anything about the corrupt corporations that run everything.

One good way to lower the temperature is to do what you’re doing: practice empathy. Folks should always try to empathize with others, especially people they don’t agree with. Nobody thinks of themselves as the villain of their own story.

It’s helpful if we make a good faith effort to try to understand where other folks are coming from, and try to meet them where they are. Easier said than done in this “Twitter wars” environment, but a necessary tool in digging us out.

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What sometimes helps is to use more words to explain what you mean, and keep calm and respectful even if they go off anyways

Shorter soundbites are fun, but they don’t capture the nuance. Saying “I agree with X, but also think Y” makes it clear what you think.

If someone still tries to pick a fight, it’ll be clear to everyone else reading the comment chain. Can’t win over everyone, but this might win over some while avoiding another pointless argument

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You know the ruling class is not behind every policy. Polarization is certainly not a policy they try and encourage in governments. Sometimes the working class has to take blame for their behaviour.

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Allies are important; haters know that; and so, haters will hate on allies too.

Just consider the history of the term “n—r-lover”.

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1: It’s extremely common for people to be biased in favour of a group they’re part of, since they benefit from that support.

2: It’s also extremely common for group members to pretend to be outsiders when supporting their group, precisely because of (1). “Oh well, if this person is supporting the group despite being an outsider, they must be super-altruistic, and therefore their cause must be super-righteous.”

3: If a group meets with widespread disapproval, then one way to silence external support for it is accusing the supporter of (2) - suggesting that not only are they one of the hated group, and also showing how dishonest the group members truly are.

4: Dunking on out-group members - especially via (3) - strengthens the bond of the in-group.

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And 5), calling shitty people out on their shit… really pisses them off, so they get nasty in response.

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