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However, the linchpin that really riled up gamers was when they realized The Day Before wasn’t actually an MMO but an extraction shooter zombie game, despite what previous advertisements would have you believe.

Is an extraction shooter not a kind of MMO? Is it because, although there are many players, there are only a limited number of players per map?

If that’s the case, then there are a bunch of games I think of as MMOs that aren’t, like Phantasy Star Online and Path of Exile.

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Well it’s M for ‘massively’, right? I am not aware of any extraction shooter that could really be considered massively multiplayer.

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As an old school gamer, anything over 8 players is massive

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Absolutely there with you. I have it on my list to try some of those ‘99’ games on Switch. Must just be a hilarious nutty experience.

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MMO kind of implies that you’re online with everyone at once, at least in the overworld

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The number of players that determine if it’s “massive” will be subjective, but there’s more to the definition than just that. A CoD game isn’t an MMO just because it has a 16vs16 lobby for example. Gameplay design is still always going to be a big factor into the genre definitions.

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An MMO is a very specific thing. Idk why that would be conflated with an extraction shooter?

Edit:Phantasy Star and POE are not MMOs either.

WoW, FFXIV, ESO, are examples of MMOs.

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Correct, they’re not. PSO appears to be 4 players. PoE appears to be 6. You could call them “MORPGs”, but that term has never really been common. They are certainly not massively anything, and I’ve never seen them described as MMOs at all.

The “traditional” definition involves tons of players (whatever that means for the time period, platform etc) active in the same world/server/instance. Even games with a zillion concurrent players would not fit, as long as those players were “isolated” to smaller servers.

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So people get toxic when you advertise misleadingly? Who’da thunk it.

People do turn into nutjobs about games, but also, with only their word for the toxicity and no word at all about what they mean by it, it’s hard to have an opinion.

Also, a related “article” has this gem:

… doesn’t appear to be an MMO after all but an extraction shooter. This goes against what previous teasers shown by developer Fntastic alluded to and clearly describes on the game’s Steam store page and official website.

Is this terribly broken English or am I just having a minor stroke?

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So people get toxic when you advertise misleadingly?

The whole online culture around gaming has been so thoroughly infiltrated by reactionaries, incels, and plain old misanthropes any developer can expect to be abused online by toxic gamers. Whether or not the grievances are genuine is beside the point.

I’m not criticizing you or defending this game, I’m just saying how fucked it is that gamers being abusive is normalized and expected.

2013: gamer /gā′mər/ n. one who plays roleplyaing or video games.

2023: gamer /gā′mər/ n. asshole spewing hate on the internet.

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I see that they used the wrong tense for “described”, but that could be a typo. Other than that it seems grammatical to me. I guess “alluded to” and “described” are redundant, but that’s more a stylistic defect than an actual error imo.

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Is it the wrong tense? Did they change it just before release, or does it still claim to be an MMO?

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66% of people I watched didn’t have too many problems getting into and exploring the game. The other 33% had major problems loading the game and quit.

Highest rating I have seen so far was a 5.9/10.

I give it a 0/10. It’s a scam trying to get early access to pay for development. Fuck that. There are thousands of games that don’t do that because it is shady as fuck. Just be honest devs or get scorched.

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early access to pay for development

Against Steam TOS

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Is it? I honestly though that was part of the reason projects go EA.

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I’d have to read through but the very top of the early access page says not to use it to fund development

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