UPDATE: Beeper, through their Twitter account, is saying that they’re working on it and “hope to have good news to share soon”:

Work continues to fix the issue causing the Beeper Mini outage. We know how hard this has been for those who loved using Beeper Mini, and we’re extremely sorry for the inconvenience. We are feeling good, though, and hope to have good news to share soon.

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To the surprise of no one.

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I, for one, am shocked. Shocked I tell you!

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Afaik apple can’t block this without also blocking iMessage on older devices that no longer receive updates.

Pretty sure I saw on Reddit beeper is already working on a fix.

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without also blocking iMessage on older devices that no longer receive updates.

My guess at Apple’s response when they do block them: “Buy a new phone”

This is the company of “you are holding it wrong” after all.

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Has there been any news of people with older Mac’s unable to use iMessage anymore because of this?

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55 points

Apple flexing their anti-competitive muscles again.

From locking down the OS to proprietary charging and a staunch opposition to right to repair, their track record has been nothing but anti-consumer for the last decade and a half.

And the worst part is that they’ve gotten away with it for so long and so often that they managed to inspire Android device manufacturers (ahem…Samsung) to follow in their footsteps. Someone really ought to step in and break up the company, Microsoft anti-trust style.

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Apple flexing their anti-competitive muscles again.

The EU will protect us, right… Right?

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No, because iMessage isn’t a gatekeeper in the EU. It’s comparable to Signal in size, depending on the country.

Hopefully with Apple adopting RCS they fix the spec to include e2e encryption. At the moment only Google’s proprietary client does RCS with their own encryption.

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iMessage is one of the largest enablers of ostracization and teen bullying. It’s a stupid cult - people see green text in their chats and they freak out. Apple knows this extremely well, and profits from it. Apple couldn’t give two shits about the degraded security either. They know this pressures their users to be locked in to their platform, and pressures people outside to buy into it or suffer being on the outside of their cult. This quick move to cut off Beeper makes Apple’s disregard for teens, security, and their own users painfully obvious. So long as they can coerce people into buying into their locked and incompatible system, Apple will continue to fuck everyone.

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iMessage is one of the largest enablers of ostracization and teen bullying

This feels like a strange trivialization of teenage bullying thought up by someone who hasn’t been a teenager in a long timr.

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On the other hand, if this is true, kudos to society for clamping down on teen bullying. There wasn’t much (if any) bullying in my high school, but not long ago bullying and ostracizing was more… physically painful.

Like yeah it sucks that there’s still any, but this green text nonsense is a hell of a lot better than having one’s head flushed inside a toilet and the like. Good to see society making forward progress.

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The green text is not the bullying, the green text is one of the new reasons the kids are getting their heads flushed in the toilet. The bullying has stayed the same, there are just new additional reasons to get bullied.

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Oh. That’s disappointing, I guess there was some degree of wishful thinking in hoping bullying was actually easing up. My schools had next to no bullying + years of anti-hazing campaigns and I’d never actually heard of anyone dealing with the classic bullying stereotypes, so I thought we really were making progress.

I wonder if part of it was the setup of the schools, where we had only a few minutes between classes to transfer rooms. Not much time to flush heads in that span? But I also thought it was a common setup still used today so no idea.

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You sound like someone with green bubbles.

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Gross an apple user.

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Eww, keep your rotten apples away from me.

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A) Apple stop being scummy

B) USA gets a grip on this bubble colour nonsense and stops using iMessage

Which comes first?

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It’s not about the bubble color, it’s about not being able to use modern messaging features cross-platform.

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The two things go hand in hand, though.

Degraded messaging gets branded with green bubbles. Green bubbles - i.e. non-Apple phones - get associated with degraded messaging. Non-Apple phones get pidgeon-holed as crappy phones for messaging. People get bullied into buying iPhones.

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it gets even better because the android to android messaging is better than the IMessage stuff, but apple purposefully degrades the performance of cross-platform messaging

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When iPhones get RCS won’t this stop being an issue?

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I think you’re being optimistic in thinking that either of those is going to happen.

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Lol classic Apple.

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