116 points

I’ve seen the first chart in a lot of news stories, and it’s a scary graph, but that second one looks positively terrifying by comparison.

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And the Antarctic ice figure is even more severe. The trend is quite stark.

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I dunno dude… They all just get progressively worse.

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The 1% truly think they are going to sit it out underground in their billion dollar bolt-holes/bunkers. It’s like thinking you’ll survive the tsunami by standing on a chair.

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I honestly don’t think they’ve really thought that far ahead.

They know they’ll be better off than everyone else and I guess that’s enough.

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There are actually quite a few places where they buy bunkers - but with luxury and stuff. it’s also marketed as a way of safe spot to retreat when the surface goes bad.

obviously, it’s rather a big ,“we found a way to make money out of rich peoples fears and doubts” rather than actual security measures. if things really go bad, how are they going to know, that their security guards aren’t going to ditch them? and if they isolate, then they cannot sustain their lifestyle in a bunker with bunker food.

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And they’re dragging us all down with them. That’s the most pissing part.

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Did you consider that it might be good for humanity to lock our billionaires into bunkers? We should lock them in in order for us to survive.

The difference is marginal: just a matter on which side you place the door handles.

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They will probably mostly survive. But then they’ll realise that all productive and smart people are dead and their money is worthless in the new world.

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all their wealth is basically dependent and built on the labour of all society, they’re not escaping this. They’ll have more privilege to suffer less relatively to the majority of the people on this planet, but they’re not escaping this

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i get the sense that they cannot control their thirst for power. it’s like trying to wrestle away a bottle of booze from a drunk. they’ll make whatever excuses are necessary to convince themselves that this is the way it has to be and they need more.

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7 points

I suspect they might be afraid of people, not of climate.

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more like the 0.01%, but it’s completely doable. lots of military science to back it up.

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8 points

What do you mean, military science? Studies held by militaries? How would anyone access said research?

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86 points

These are terrifying graphs and I don’t like looking at them. Academically, I’m fully aware of the horror and threat that climate change poses, but these graphs and the massive fires really make it feel more real.

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that’s how it goes. we’re in this transformation but most people don’t notice it because they experience the world and things seem to be ok (for now, or they are distracted by some other insignificant thing), and this is not even mentioning the economic and political obstacles that block any meaningful change.

I think the likely scenario is people won’t seriously start to be concerned (and by serious i mean taking proactive steps across their individual and social lives) until this situation further develops and it will be a bit too late. I hope i’m wrong.

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Yet there are still so many people who deny climate change. It is pretty horrifying.

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55 points

It seems to get more difficult to end an article with optimisms:

But it would be wrong to call what is happening a “climate collapse” […] we still have time to secure a liveable future for many

For many, hm.

Reminded my of another article ending on

Here is where we need to invest and make changes and innovate and not give up. We can’t just write off billions of people.

Article mentioned

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24 points

Well that’s grim.

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24 points

It’s long past time we pull the best quote from a scientist just saying, “we fucking told you.”

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9 points

Scientists like Michael Mann are trying very hard to not create so much panic that people give up and stop trying to end fossil fuel use. But this article is definitely panic inducing lol.

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This is the second time in a week someone has used “tumble” to mean “occur rapidly” instead of “fall”. Is this a new colloquialism or had"tumble" always had a second definition as “occur rapidly”?

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“Tumble” does not mean “occur rapidly” here. It means “broken”. When a world record is broken, it falls or tumbles. These are climate world records, like “hottest day ever”.

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If a condition is worsening (a “fall”) “tumble” applies just fine. Indeed, “tumble” is just a way to say “falling rapidly” in this context.

The reason “tumble” (and its notion of “fall”) is applicable is because the situation is worsening. If it was rapidly improving, nobody would say “tumble”; it’s not simply that it is occurring rapidly.

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In this case, one could assume tumbling is related to the temperature and not the situation, leading to an observation that the situation is improving. It is a poor choice of words for this headline.

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No, as I realized and clarified in a comment of mine down this thread a bit,

Climate records tumble,

Here, “climate records” is the object of the verb “tumble”. That is, the thing that is “tumbling” are “climate records”.

I agree it’s a poor choice of wording for a headline but it is clear what is doing the tumbling on subsequent reads.

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Taking a tumble referring to something that is worsening is another common definition that I’ve read countless times in reference to something problematically decreasing, I’ve never heard or read “tumble” used until very recently to describe a situation in which something is rising. Have you?

“falling rapidly” would make perfect sense in many other situations. “Food storage tumbles, democracy tumbles, winter temperatures tumble”, etc. But nothing is falling, all of the temperature records are rising.

Summer temperatures are so high they tumble?

This is a genuine grammatical question. I’m not trying to detract from your answer or the article itself.

I’m just very confused by this usage of the word “tumble” that I’ve seen at least twice now to refer to rising temperatures.

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But nothing is falling, all of the temperature records are rising.

I see what you’re saying. I had taken the use to mean the situation is tumbling, not the temperatures. But upon a closer reading (of the title specifically) it seems a more reasonable interpretation of the word tumble is:

Climate records tumble,

The object of the verb ‘tumble’ is “climate records”. That is, the climate records are tumbling. A tumbling record is one which has fallen over and been surpassed. So what they’re saying by using the word “tumble” is: previous climate records have fallen over and been surpassed.

I do agree it’s a weird word choice, but I don’t think it’s wrong or even playing on a potential uncommon secondary definition. It’s not saying temperatures have tumbled, but rather records have tumbled.

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Tumbling of temperatures slams former record.

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