People in New York City once again took to the streets to demand a permanent ceasefire in Israel’s war on Gaza and an end US aid to Israel. Protesters marched from Foley Square to NYC City Hall, Wall Street, and Washington Square Park to raise their demands. The protest took place as the United Nations Security Council was voting on a ceasefire resolution, which was vetoed by the United States.
The protest was called for by the Shut It Down for Palestine Coalition, composed of several organizations including the International Peoples’ Assembly, the Palestinian Youth Movement, the ANSWER Coalition, and National Students for Justice in Palestine, and dozens of other local New York City organizations.
We can only send thoughts and prayers to the kids dying of school shootings in our country, why do we need to fund a religious war on the other side of the world? I am seriously asking what benefit it is to the US?
It is not a religious war. Was it a religious war when the indigenous peoples elsewhere fought against the invaders? Palestinians are no less passionate about their land than the Lakota or Zulu.
“Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves … politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country. … Behind the terrorism [by the Arabs] is a movement, which though primitive is not devoid of idealism and self sacrifice.” — David Ben Gurion. Quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky’s Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan’s “Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.
The Middle East in general has oil and Israel is our main base over there basically, being an ally in the region. They give us a zone of control. (Also Turkey but Israel is easier to control and it’s good to have backups.)
Turkey isn’t a reliable ally in the same way Israel is. Turkey is a relatively large country that has the capacity to act fully independently of any great power, and occasionally does. Israel is much smaller and can only sustain itself with US and EU support. A sanctions package like what has been applied to Russia would likely cripple Israel and see it wiped off the map rather quickly, so they have no choice but to stay on side.
Every bullet fired, every bomb dropped, is money in the bank for American military corporations. War = $$$
Both can be true. We can have a just war that prints money for bad people.
The war in Israel, however, is a bad war printing money for bad people.
Frankly, I don’t really understand how a privatized military industrial complex is not a blow to national security. You’d think we’d want more cost-effective munitions.
Didn’t the CIA say Ukraine blew up Russia’s Nordstream pipeline (which carries Russian oil to Europe)?
Ya, stand with terrorists…sure.
“Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves … politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country. … Behind the terrorism [by the Arabs] is a movement, which though primitive is not devoid of idealism and self sacrifice.” — David Ben Gurion. Quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky’s Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan’s “Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.
Yeah I’m sure all those dead children and babies on life support were actually terrorists
Nice strawman…because there’s a single person alive that accused the children and babies right? How pathetically ignorant. But you then ignore when those people you’re defending strap bombs to those children don’t you?
Both sides are shitty. One side is being significantly more shitty without restraint. If you look at numbers, one side is doing considerably more harm than the other. If you look at individual acts of shittiness, then sure, under that squinted framing, both sides are equal.
Fuck Hamas and its sympathizers, but fuck Israel for all the innocents it killed. They are both fucking terrorists at this point.
Israel lost any moral high ground from 10/7 a long time ago.
Their body count on innocent people and a way higher than hamas.
Support innocent Palestinians who are being killed
“Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves … politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country. … Behind the terrorism [by the Arabs] is a movement, which though primitive is not devoid of idealism and self sacrifice.” — David Ben Gurion. Quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky’s Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan’s “Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.
About the Hamas part: AFAIK October 7th was mainly a military attack against legitimate military targets with military goals, with the (very much undeniable, don’t get me wrong) atrocities committed being individual action that hasn’t been proven to come from the top, If I’m not wrong about that understanding I don’t see how Hamas and Israel can be put in the same position here.
Wow, fuck the IDF but this is some serious dick riding for Hamas. The “lone actions of a few individuals”? Are you serious?
They still killed a bunch of innocents. You can not deny that, if Hamas actually had a problem with it, then they should surrender everyone who killed innocents.
Do that, and maybe we can talk.
10/7 was a terrorist attack against civilians, the blow back has disproportionately affected innocent Palestinians.
Don’t defend terrorists.
If a legitimate army had soldiers that did that they would make a VERY public display of what happens to people who attack innocent people at a music festival and release videos of them going house to house in a settlement.
I have seen the pictures and videos from both sides and they are both indefensible.
