I have read the FAQ of KDE Neon: it is well made and answers ground questions like “Is it a distro?” or “Can I turn Kubuntu into KDE Neon?”

…And yet I’m confused, because I’m just a newbie in the Linux world. For instance, when they say “on top of a stable base” I don’t know what’s meant as a “base”.

I think I understand that it isn’t a distro, but it fascinates me that it’s meant to be installed from an ISO or similar, just like a distro.

I wonder if any of you can explain:

  • What is it, in different words?
  • Why is it “implemented” as it is?
  • Are there any other “quasi-distros” like KDE Neon out there?
  • Do you use it? how has your experience with it been?

Cheers!

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They take Ubuntu LTS and add their software on top of it. Ubuntu is the base. It’s stable because it’s unchanging, you only get security and bug fixes, no new versions except the Neon additions. It’s implemented like it is because starting with a complete and freely available distro like Ubuntu is a lot less work than building from scratch.

I think it qualifies as a distro by any current definition, but maybe not one they expect to be in general use. It seems to be quite popular despite that. I’ve never used it though so I can’t comment on how it is.

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Thank you for explaninig what they mean by “base”! But then what’s the difference with Kubuntu? In the FAQ they say “as there is vast overlap in the base offerings of both Kubuntu and KDE neon”, but what do they mean with “base offerings”?

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They are both based on Ubuntu so they mostly offer the same software. Neon has a more up to date KDE stack but you can get something similar by adding the backports ppa to Kubuntu although it may not always have the latest version.

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Don’t forget that Kubuntu is an official Ubuntu flavor while KDE Neon is not. Being an official flavor means that they have to follow certain rules for their design.

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Also, KDE Neon only has versions built on the latest Ubuntu LTS, which (I think) only gets a distro upgrade every 2 years. So you’re missing out on all of the interim releases.

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KDE Neon is new KDE with old Ubuntu. Kubuntu is old KDE with new Ubuntu

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That’s a neat description.

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Is KDE Neon really based on Ubuntu? I seem to remember that it at least used to be based on debian stable!?

Edit: Just looked it up: It’s based on Ubuntu LTS.

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Everyone else has answered your other questions, but let me just say that I’ve used KDE Neon (while distro hopping) it’s both beautiful and functional. The latest KDE developments are really solid and intuitive, and based on their development updates I’ve seen on Mastodon and elsewhere, it seems like they’re really starting to understand their userbase.

I.E. they understand that most people want to double click icons to launch them even though almost the entire development team prefers single click. They’re not doing the tunnel-vision dev thing where they force what they love on users even though the vast majority of the userbase prefers the opposite.

Edit: It looks and feels gorgeous, and even similar alternatives like Kubuntu kind of feel a little worse to me. Then again, I’m a serious Cinnamon / KDE fan, so other peoples’ mileage may vary.

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Thank you! I was hoping to hear about this kind of user experiences.

The fact they they listen to users’ preference is a great plus for me.

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KDE is a Desktop Environment.

“KDE Neon” is the latest Ubuntu LTS, but with fresher KDE packages and support straight from the KDE team.

Usually the KDE version would be a few releases older than what the KDE Neon distro offers.

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Thank you. By “KDE version” you mean Kubuntu? or am I misreading you?

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No, the Desktop Environment (KDE, DE stands for Desktop Environment).

Kubuntu is a separate thing, it’s Ubuntu with KDE preinstalled.

KDE Neon on the other hand, is an ubuntu based distro from what I understand, I’ve never used it though.

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No, I mean the version of the KDE software. Like how Windows 7, 8, and 10 are different versions, Desktop Environments also have different version numbers.

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  1. Ubuntu with newest version of KDE stuffed into it. In short it’s more for developers to test latest KDE versions in a relatively stable and easily maintained environment but gained popularity since it’s newer than Kubuntu and doesn’t enforce snaps.

  2. By “stable base” they mean Ubuntu. The package systems (apt and snap), the kernel choice and configuration, the background services are what make the “back end” of a distro and Ubuntu is an example where this backend is given LTS (long term support) maintenance and thorough testing, even if that also means using older versions of the backend software in question. KDE Neon uses this because if something goes wrong with the distro it’s likely their fault and not some backend stuff unrelated to KDE. Ubuntu is also good for building spinoff distros as most of the work is done for you - You just make your tweaks to a “minimal” ubuntu ISO and share it!

  3. GnomeOS is probably the main example of a distro designed for testing rather than daily use. It’s maintained by GNOME for testing their changes and can also be used for daily stuff if you want. Not sure what else “quasi distro” could mean, but there are a bunch of Ubuntu-based distros (And spinoffs to other big distros) that exist on a spectrum of “almost identical” to “completely redesigned”.

  4. I used it for a few months. It’s pretty good! You get brand new KDE features on top of a familiar ubuntu system. It gives you the feeling of a bleeding edge UI experience but you don’t risk the software driving that new UI being super buggy or breaking things. That being said, some users (like myself) prefer different software managers or don’t like Ubuntu for other reasons. KDE-Neon as a distro in itself is a pretty solid choice, though.

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Thank you for such a thorough and informative answer! And for sharing your user experience too. I had not heard about GnomeOS. As soon as I have some days to experiment, I’ll give Neon a try.

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