My friend is a customer service rep who is ready to retire. Her company is talking about layoffs with 13+ weeks of severance, but when she asked (anonymously) if they were accepting volunteers, they said no. In case she’s not one of the ones told to clean out her desk, what are the ways she could get terminated while preserving her ability to claim unemployment (which would equal the 13 weeks of severance)?

UPDATE: She took my advice and saw her doctor. He agreed that she’s experiencing a job-related stress injury, set her up with a Disability claim, and referred her for psychiatric counseling.

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Talk about starting a union?

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And then you can sue.

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This sounds promising. Just have to find what union would represent customer service reps.

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That only works in the US. At my place they would aks if this new union is registered, so that they can help employees pay the union contributions tax-free.

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Ask for a raise. Tell them there’s no retirement plans because of inflation now, and she can see herself staying there another 10 years.

They might not lay her off because they know she’ll retire soon anyways. Increase her cost of employment so it’s no longer cost effective to just wait it out.

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I mentioned asking for a raise, but she countered that they would want her to jump ship.

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I don’t see how asking for and not receiving a raise puts any more pressure on the company to surplus her. I agree with her that it would signal that she will quit if they don’t pay her more.

It’s all moot at this point, because it looks like she’s going to get disability for job stress related illness. At least that’s what she’s told me her doctor said.

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Start documenting all their OSHA violations lol.

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Easy. Email everyone in the company how much she makes.
Start an email chain about wages.
Open the handbook and start using/abusing the loopholes while pointing them out.

And most importantly; do as little as possible while maintaining the job requirements as laid out in the listing.

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just talk about unions in non union job and you will be gone fast

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That’s not a legally fireable offense in the USA.

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I thought the idea was to “get severance”. Which would be "it’s cheaper to pay severance than permit them to continue disturbing the workplace. Sounds like you’re trying to advocate doing something illegal.

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Ideally she wants to be laid off. But if that doesn’t happen she wants to retire. I’ve been trying to convince her that retiring means no severance and no unemployment, so getting fired without cause is her next best option.

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That’s the goal here though. If she wants to collect unemployment getting fired without cause is the plan.

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I understand that, but the company isn’t going to outright say that’s why an employee is terminated. They’ll make up a reason, first.

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It’s not in Australia either but it definitely happens. Seen it personally. Nobody will become a union representative if they’ve seen the last 3 not have their contract renewed for unknown reasons.

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Does lemmy have an unethical life pro tips community yet? You’d probably get better results if we did.

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Funny thing is I see nothing unethical in this request. Companies have no ethics that are not enforced by laws, so it is not unethical for employees to adopt the same behaviour.

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What’s unethical is the unemployment process.

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We do, I just don’t know how to link to communities in lemmy.

Edit: Did this do anything?

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Works for me!

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Thanks for the effort!

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I really don’t think there’s anything unethical about this. They’re going to be laying people off anyway; they may as well lay off someone it will hurt less.

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