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Cool that average FPS is better but:

The impressive FPS deltas aside, it should be mentioned that, with the exception of Arch Linux, average frame times (measured as 1% lows, in this case) on Linux were generally behind what Windows managed by up to 20%

I feel like worse 1% lows makes this title misleading. Hopefully with time this gap will close.

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1 % lows are likely a driver thing (Nvidia calls it “Game Ready Drivers”), with Arch you’ll get new drivers (or kernel versions) much earlier, similar to Windows.

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… Then why did they get the results that they did in the article?

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The article specifies arch as an exception to that

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86 points

Death, taxes and this post on Lemmy

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i just saw this for the first time and it brought me joy

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1 day cannot pass without this article getting reposted across various communities.

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Yeah, these are getting really annoying.

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I swear people just scroll through lemmy, see a post they like and then think to themselves, “this is cool, I should post this on lemmy!”

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It’s okay. Lemmy isn’t a wiki. Content is organized temporally. Imagine these conversations as bar conversations (just because one group had a conversation one night, doesn’t mean another group can’t repeat it the next). If you are annoyed that the algo keeps giving you the same stuff, sort by All and New Comments and you’ll find niche communities to subscribe to.

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As someone on Linux, and who thinks performance is generally slightly better on my machine after switching, I totally agree. This post has been old for a while now. Get some more data and then post that new thing or stop posting it.

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A Lemmy option to hide posts of links already red in another post would be neat. (First time I see this one though)

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Testing done on specific hardware and not a broad spectrum of machines is as relevant as asking one person their political opinion and saying that applies to their whole nation.

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Well sure but rephrased it’s just “Three Linux distros that embarrass Windows 11 in gaming performance.” which to me, is equally interesting.

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article title: windows DEAD LAST!

also in the same article: “… When it comes to FPS, the overall leader in testing was Nobara Linux, with Arch Linux and Pop!_OS trailing by 1–5%. Windows 11, however, was only 6% behind Nobara Linux. So, **there isn’t a massive performance delta here, **”

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“on that one specific machine.”

You’re missing that part from your premise and it’s the important one.

Notice how they didn’t use one with an Nvidia GPU… Or even hardware released this year either…

Edit: Aaaw, I made you angwy and you downvoted me :(

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Nvidia isnt so bad if you’re on a stable distro it supports and using x(though Ive heard wayland support is improving for it). On rolling or more cutting edge distros where the kernel is likely to change every few weeks and major DE versions might ship that proprietary driver will hurt.

That said while amd is generally better on linux for this reason it’s worth mentioning that it has two huge flaws:

1.Its not perfect like the fans mention. As someone who owned a 3500u and 6650u apu life under amd isnt always sunny. 3500u had a kernel regression for about half a year that prevented the cpu from idling and rembrant apus have an issue where the whole system locks up which seems to come and go(feels like it’s gone for now but Ive thought that before). Desktop gpus are better, but they still did suffer from driver bugs. I think my experience with my 5600xt was better than windows fans had for that generation, but it was not entirely stable and I did suffer from many kernel panics and system freezes. A few mesa and kernel releases fixed that, but it wasnt perfectly smooth. In addition to that no hdmi 2.1 support which is fine unless you game using your nice oled tv because no tvs come with display port. Proprietary drivers do allow for supporting some of the more obnoxious features that arent allowed.

  1. It can vary gpu/cpu to gpu/cpu for how fresh your software will need to be, but generally newer hardware needs very new kernels just for basic support and it may need a few more releases to get stable or good. So if you want to just sit back with ubutnu LTS or debian you need to make sure the release cycle lines up with support for your hardware. The other end of the spectrum is that being on a bleeding or cutting edge distro can mean stability issues and regressions. So for example a month or three ago fedora pushed a kernel update that had a regression where my 6800xt gpu wouldnt clock up when utilized so gaming framerates tanked and retroarch shaders were choking up. I could just use the old kernel but I had to make sure that the kernel updates didnt bump it away. Also an entire point release and several releases after that before the bug was fixed.

So while there is a lot of pro amd comments in the linux world and its worth acknowledging that the open source drivers are generally good it’s not perfect and the grass isnt always greener.

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The Nvidia drivers perform fine generally but it would be nice to verify it.

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56 points

What do the performance metrics look like for the games that won’t run on Linux?

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About the same as Spiderman 2 or Ghost of Tsushima on Windows.

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you mean the rootkits that won’t run on Linux?

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When did ‘rootkit’ come to be a generic term for invasive software? Rootkits are a specific type of thing.

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Anticheats that run in the NT kernel may as well be described as rootkits, especially as they aren’t transparent about exactly what they’re doing. Then there’s the question of what happens if they get compromised

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Vanguard, BattlEye, EasyAntiCheat, Ricochet, etc… all run in the Windows Kernel and most, if not all, have the functionality to run arbitrary code, so might as well class them as rootkits.

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If it has kernel level access and can run arbitrary code, that’s a rootkit.

It’s absolutely valid to call these systems rootkits.

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Because “rootkit” sounds more ominous and scary than “kernel level anticheat” and the communities complaining about such things aren’t known to keep hyperbole to a minimum. Gotta push that FUD.

This article for instance, using language that insinuates a huge gap in performance between the Linux distros and windows, when it’s a 6% difference between the best and the worst, on one set of hardware.

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(They were not serious)

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That’s the point they were trying to make. It was a facetious question.

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