Timothy Murray lost his father earlier this year and had been asking his principal for counseling when she called in the police

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Data from Brownsville ISD seen by The Observer showed its officers made 3,102 student arrests between May 2021 and Nov. 2023. Nearly 60% of those were on felony charges and 76 of those kids were in elementary school.

what the fuck is going on over there

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175 points

High-speed school-to-prison pipeline. Because inmates=free labour and prisons are for-profit. Gotta get 'em kidz institutionalized as early as possible!

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100 points

It’s the conservative way. They hold these traditions sacred.

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I suspect that being born from the wrong vagina is a crime for those people.

It just explains so many things: from their criminalization of abortion whilst taking State support away from poor single mothers to emprisioning kids who don’t have a mommy and daddy with the right connections or who can afford the kind of lawyer who would extract a massive compensations from everybody involved in putting a kid in prision like this.

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This was what they found in other schools too. One specific location ( I can’t remember where) the dads formed a group to a) keep kids peaceful and b) because they were being sent to jail for schoolyard bs. It was a largely black school. If you want to look it up with the sad details my brain is providing. Sry

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27 points

Yep. Also noticed that the principal that called the police and the DA refusing to drop the case have the same last name. Garza isn’t that rare of a last name, but it’s not exactly “Smith”, either. I’d bet good money those fuckers are related to each other.

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7 points

Wait, that’s just slavery with extra steps!

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3 points

Not “extra steps” but "plausible deniability"😉

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Why ban slavery when we can evolve it?!?

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84 points

what the fuck is going on over there

Brownsville is 94% Hispanic or Latino. This is Texas doing Texas shit.

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63 points

Just republican shit.

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32 points

Murica! Murica! Murica!

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21 points

So much for that “stay in school” speech…

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What % of those kids were assholes?

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65 points

asshole doesn’t mean criminal

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I’m just saying… you never had a kid in class that was years older then everyone else, not doing shit, disrupting class all the time, getting violent and ending up in jail for attempt murder just after leaving school? I had. I wish there was a way to get him out of school earlier. I would be a better environment for everyone. But there wasn’t so they had to deal with him till he was 18 yo. Then on the other hand if you let teachers kick kids out they will get lazy and start locking up children for anything like in Texas.

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56 points

If being an asshole was illegal Texas would be a prison.

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9 points

They’re working on it…

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2 points

Texas. The new Australia.

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32 points

wtf is wrong with you?

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Were you never an asshole as a kid? It’s part of growing up. We work to make them better, but arresting them does nothing worthwhile.

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11 points
  1. Kids are kids. Asshole parents raise asshole adults.
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9 points

Shouldn’t matter. You don’t throw kids in jail just because they are assholes.

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9 points

76 arrests of elementary students? Does it really matter? I have a hard time believing any arrest is appropriate for that age

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5 points

You’re making up 110% of them

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151 points

Obviously the cops and prosecutors are real shitheads here, but I think some blame goes to a piece of shit principal who woukd call the police on an 11 year old.

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85 points

The DA and Principal are likely related, same last name. I’d bet this isn’t the only incident between these two, with the principal setting up the targets and the DA knocking them down.

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61 points

She also apparently called CPS on a different mother for questioning her special education program.

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18 points

None of them should have any kind of power over others. If we ever manage to fix this system despite the dipshits that are trying to break it further, whether system comes next should have a specific focus on preventing people like this from getting power or keeping it if they manage to hide themselves until after they’ve gained power.

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And also the stupid law that allows charges against children. Our system of kids under 14 not being “strafmündig” (criminally responsible) is often criticized and has other issues sometimes but at least it prevents shit like this

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I’ve tried to understand what the charges are, as far as I could tell it seems it’s somehow related to an anti terrorist law and caused by the kid pulling someone’s hair and gesturing to cut paper with scissors, which was interpreted as gesturing to cut a finger.

The article seems to try very hard to obfuscate the actual reason (I’m guessing for legal reasons?)

In any case, this seems insane, seems like excessive overreaction from everyone involved.

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84 points

its because there is no actual reason for it. they are still trying to document one

texas, you fuckin cowards.

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82 points

The whole thing is weird.

His ordeal began five days later. In the late morning of September 8, Timothy was pulled out of music class and ushered into a room where he found Garza, Assistant Principal Michelle Saucedo, a district police officer, and a counselor sent from the district’s central administrative office. He was told another student had just reported that Timothy said he was planning to kill the principal. Rincon said she was called and rushed to the school but was not allowed to be in the room while Timothy was being questioned.

“When the police officer had his body cam off, they were yelling and telling me, ‘We’re gonna go to the full extent. We’re gonna put you in a lockbox,’” Timothy said. “Then, when the body cam was finally on, they were so nice.”

Timothy told me he had explained to the school and district officials that the accusations were not true, that the only conversation he had that morning was with two other boys about wearing his sweater over his uniform.

Rincon has received only a school conduct referral form, on which administrators wrote that “Timothy told another student that his hair was messy because he was up all night to come up with a plan to kill Mrs. Garza (principal).” Underneath, Timothy wrote: “No I was not up all night I just forgot [to comb my hair].”

On the bottom of the form, administrators had written: “OSS [out-of-school suspension] 3 days 9/11-9/13.”

https://www.texasobserver.org/why-was-this-11-year-old-honor-roll-student-put-in-solitary/

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Not the point of this article/topic but why is law enforcement required to wear body cameras but they can turn them off whenever they want!? That’s asking for abuse! Unless they’re using the restroom (and even then I’d lean towards an independent reviewer deleting footage, if anyone). These are public servants on-the-clock! If there’s no enforcement, there’s no consequences to purposely deactivating the taxpayer-funded camera they’re supposed to be operating under…

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42 points

So it started with a kid who made up a really tall tale, told it to an adult in the form of completely unsubstantiated hearsay, which the admins for some mysterious reason chose to belief. Those admins must be either stupid or malicious.

I’m leaning towards maliciousness, jealousy and spite as the most likely reasons for why this is happening.

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55 points

I thought the same thing. Here’s the archived Texas Observer article on it, which is what this article’s source seems to be.

Apparently the principal heard from another student that this kid was “making threats” against her. Sounds pretty thin to me.

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17 points

Unless the kid brained someone with a tee ball trophy, I categorize this penalty in the “extreme” category.

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7 points

Texas, bruh.

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129 points

Chief Wiggum : No Jury in the World is going to convict a baby…Maybe Texas

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11 points

Is this a real line?

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Yes, Season 7 episode 1

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Data from Brownsville ISD seen by The Observer showed its officers made 3,102 student arrests between May 2021 and Nov. 2023. Nearly 60% of those were on felony charges and 76 of those kids were in elementary school.

What the everliving fuck is wrong with these people?

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37 points

It’s Texas. They’ve NEVER been afraid of letting everyone know just how big of pieces of shit they are.

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4 points

Everything’s bigger in Texas.

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10 points

Its Texas lol. Our government prides itself on having no empathy or compassion whatsoever.

See the list of executed juvenile offenders before the federal government made it illegal:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_for_juveniles_in_the_United_States

Or the time the state was in contempt of court for years because they didn’t want to revise the excessively cruel CPS system.

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That’s just absolutely fucking insane.

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