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So uh… Israel… I’m pretty sure “never forget” doesn’t mean “we should practice it so we don’t forget how to conduct an efficient genocide”

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Nonono… It’s “never forget what happened to the Jews”.

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…and use that as a strategy guide to oppress others?

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Literally selective sympathies huh. I just don’t get why they can’t make things better with people instead of burning literal food to try win.

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And the USA funds the genocide

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And acts as the good guys to boot.

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I wonder, is there any nation or entity the US doesn’t fund?

Can’t get played when you play all sides.

I always love how two nations genocide each other and every English speaking forum ends up with ‘How dare the USA’ lol.

It’s like people who can do nothing but blame the parents on their child going onto murder everyone when sometimes your child is just shit lol. You absolve so much of their personal responsibility by blaming the son for fathers behavior.

People really just don’t like the fact that people can and will do evil shit without much justification simply by the way their genetics and culture work.

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Did you just say people do evil things because of their genetics?

holy fucking genetic supremecy, batman.

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Did you just say people do evil things because of their genetics?

holy fucking genetic supremecy, batman.

What kind of simple minded asinine take are you appeal to extreme’ing about?

Helicopter or hands-off parenting? The choice won’t impact a kid as much as you think

https://www.npr.org/transcripts/1193176710

Nature versus nurture is a long-standing debate in biology and society about the relative influence on human beings of their genetic inheritance (nature) and the environmental conditions of their development (nurture). The alliterative expression “nature and nurture” in English has been in use since at least the Elizabethan period[1] and goes back to medieval French.[2] The complementary combination of the two concepts is an ancient concept (Ancient Greek: ἁπό φύσεως καὶ εὐτροφίας).[3] Nature is what people think of as pre-wiring and is influenced by genetic inheritance and other biological factors. Nurture is generally taken as the influence of external factors after conception e.g. the product of exposure, experience and learning on an individual.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nature_versus_nurture

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Wouldn’t genocide be an effort to kill all Palestinans everywhere, like the millions in other Arab states?

You know, instead of focusing on the elected government of Gaza (who still has 57%+ support amongst Gazan civilians), who targeted 1200+ civilians intentionally in one of the worst terroist attacks of recent memory?

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Definition Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide

Article II

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

in whole or in part. Not that you care, just for anybody wondering what the Geneva convention says. Though people should not base their morality on law, even UN law.

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Which is why Hamas who is intentionally co-locating (and the target of the attacks) in what would otherwise be protected targets is a war crime.

If Hamas was not using civilian shields and being aided by the majority of Gaza residents who support them, then absolutely it would be a war crime.

It’s just that unlike many armchair legal scholars here, I’m aware that the intended terrorist targets make this a nonsense legal argument. Again, without Hamas there you’d be correct.

The convention isn’t written in a vacuum. And misusing and diminishing the term genocide a bad idea.

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In case anyone is on the fence about this issue and doesn’t realize this is easily disproven misinformation, there hasn’t been an election for the president or legislature in Palestine since 2006.. Hamas has maintained a stranglehold on the region for seventeen years by discontinuing elections.

Even if that was true, this is a bad faith argument anyhow: it’s entirely possible to focus on the atrocities being committed by both sides. Rivermonster simply seems to enjoy regurgitating Israeli propaganda.

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Except that still males them the official and elected government. It’s weird that you want to ignore the facts. That you decide they’re illegitimate just bc it doesn’t fit your narrative is what’s wrong.

They still have majority support amongst residents. If there were an election today, they’d dominate. Who do you think would win? The PLA, Fatah, and West Bank can’t get rid of them fast enough. They want Hamas in there, too.

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That’s true, the elected government of Gaza is a horrible fascist state and they are just as bad as the monsters who are gunning down civilians in that region. However that doesn’t mean the people of Gaza aren’t worth saving and don’t have value. I just don’t understand why, when we’re talking about a relatively small strip of land, the Palestinians can’t have their own self-governed state, free from interference by Israel. Or is that just too much to ask for in this world.

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There were tunnels under that food

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If so, hopefully, they’re flooded with seawater now and filled with dead Hamas.

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I cannot help but think of nazi Germany when I read this. It’s very similar

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They gotta learn that somewhere…

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Retired IDF General Israel Ziv told CNN he had seen the videos and was so disturbed by them that he reached out to IDF commanders in charge of the soldiers involved.

“I was (told) that the brigade commander will punish the ones who did that once they stop fighting,” he told CNN.

In its statement to CNN, the IDF said that “disciplinary measures will be taken regarding the soldiers involved.”

In other words, they’re only interested in punishing the ones that get caught, and they’ll only process it well after it’s happened so they can just deliver a slap on the wrist.

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In other words, they’re only interested in punishing the ones that get caught, and they’ll only process it well after it’s happened so they can just deliver a slap on the wrist.

By definition, you can only punish the ones that get caught.

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Actually the Israelis are very strong supporters of collective punishment, given their stance on Palestinians I would have thought they would execute the families of entire platoons.

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