Tesla driver who killed 2 people while using autopilot must pay $23,000 in restitution without having to serve any jail time::The case is believed to be the first time that U.S. prosecutors have brought felony charges against a motorist who was using a partially automated driving system.
Tesla has to get more punishment than NOTHING. This sucks
Yeah, judging by the article, Tesla should take some responsibility here. Not that the driver should get off, if your car is blowing a red light at 120km/h you’re just not paying proper attention.
Sure, I’d prefer to know more exactly the time between. Was it 2 seconds or 25? But my premise is this shouldn’t happen in the software. I know I read some time ago that Teslas had shut off the software moments before collision, no time to save it, but I’d have to double check that. All to blame the customer
Automakers should not be allowed to use the unsuspecting public as toys for their experimental software, it quickly becomes a 1-4 ton death machine, but I think we agree on that.
Oh yeah, I work in software development myself. No way I’d trust my life to something like Tesla’s autopilot, which is perpetually in beta, relies on just the camera feed and is basically run by a manager that has clear issues with over promising and under delivering (among other things). You can get away with shit like that for a website or mobile app, but these are people’s lives.
Their families have separately filed civil lawsuits against Aziz Riad and Tesla that are ongoing.
Suing Tesla seems a little dumb to me. Sue the DMV that’s giving people like this licenses
Auto manufacturers must be held liable for faulty software. If it’s not safe, it does not go on the road
So if I want to kill someone and get away with it I just run them over with a Tesla? Nice…
Hey what a bargain! Usually hired killers cost a lot more than that. OR SO IM TOLD BY MY FRIENDS.
How can I register that I don’t want leniency for someone who manslaughters me?
Like, I get it. We like in a society. Compassion. All that stuff. It doesn’t have to be life in prison. But it better be enough prison to ruin their life; just enough. Just enough that they always feel like those things that Ursula turns all the mermaids into in little mermaid. Like king triton looks like a little shitty barnicle instead of a big muscle daddy.
Oh, and no memoirs or books or anything about how they were the first guy to get postmortem denied parole because of my no pussy manslaughter sentence clause.
Yeah, similar thoughts. People fuck up, make terrible mistakes through stupidity or bad luck or whatever and end up killing people and the best thing for society as a whole is rehabilitation and forgiveness.
That said, if it was one of my family, I’d be campaigning for the driver to have “my negligence killed two people” tattooed on their forehead so they never, ever get to forget the damage they have done
If you want it to just be enough to ruin their lifes then why don’t we just start executing them on the side of the road?
I’m having real trouble understanding people who advocate for a world like that. Tomorrow it might be your mom checking your text to bring some orange juice from the store aswell and then she hits a pedestrian and now we’re going to ruin her life for it because apparently she deserves it. This is the world you guys want to live in?
Or someone close to you could be killed by a driver using autopilot like this.
Fair, but I’ll assert it’s invalid
The end goal should always be a better society. Punishment isn’t an effective way to discourage behavior.
Maybe one day, someone kills my sister. I’d happily kill them. I’d do it with no remorse, and I’d do it with or without understanding the situation.
I should be stopped if I’m in that situation. I’ll be pissed, but everyone will be better off if I hold back. So, society should hold be back
In a way I agree, there has to be a major deterrent for this level of negligence. That said, “ruin their life” isn’t IMHO the right way to go. I’d be happier if they kept living a productive life, but they’d better be supporting the people who depend on me.
You want them to learn their lesson but how do you do that without ruining lives? How do you do it before they kill two people? I think that level of change has to be governmental and even cultural. Reducing dependence on cars, increasing how seriously driving is taken, etc
Okay but these are parties who should pay or at least be investigated for fault as well:
- Tesla, obviously (stop calling it autopilot. This is why idiots treat it like, ya know, autopilot.)
- Traffic Engineers (probably out of tax payers pockets. Sorry, not sorry. Pay attention to your transport infrastructure as well as who you elect to maintain and design it. Why is it that the US has had such an increase in road fatalities and incidents when so many European nations have seen a decrease? Consider why that is and how that can be replicated here. Also, unfuck the average american’s mindset on roundabouts. I don’t know why so many of us hate roundabouts with a rabid anger, but at the same time will complain about red lights without a single ounce of irony.)
