What to say to people who say this kinda of thing? Usually I just say “ok then”

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That’s about all there is that we can say, some people just don’t care about their privacy until a blatant violation of it is right in front of their face, and nothing else except for that would ever make them care.

The energy is better spent on sharing info with people who want to do more for privacy, so that eventually it’s hopefully normalized to care about privacy.

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even blatant violations dont matter, they will still use and do the same things without caring, that’s the fucked up part lol. I’ve seen this so many times.

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That can change in an instant if the government ever decides to outlaw something you aren’t hiding.

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Medical privacy is a great example.

Consider a situation like Texas right now where abortion went from a normal, legal thing to something that you can be fined and jailed for.

Would such a person be OK with the state having access to their medical records so they could jail or fine them?

People need to understand that much of privacy precautions are “layers” of security against “what if” scenarios that can sometimes be very real.

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Some variation of the below:

Can I have your phone with the messaging apps unlocked?

Can I log into your personal email?

Can I see your tax returns?

Can I set up cameras and microphones in your house?

Can I place a GPS tracker on your car?

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It also works with opening up the info to anyone, not just you. That’s one of the key issues, even if a trusted party is accessing the info there’s a chance that a malicious party can get access too. Or the trusted party becomes malicious later (government changes, company changes hands, etc.)

People generally don’t want everything in their home live streamed 24/7. If anything it has the potential for abuse, like if someone knows when you’ll be out of home for a few hours

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Insurance companies in some countries give you a discount if you agree to put a tracker on your car…

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Or use their app on your phone, which will “detect your driving patterns” and adjust your rates accordingly.

But honestly, even without all that, modern cars already have trackers and Internet connections even without your knowledge. (Mine did a couple of impromptu OTA updates for the media center at the beginning. It also has an SOS button on the roof, which you need to be subscribed to use, but can activate the subscription through the button. This implies there is a GPS tracker, as well as a cellular connection).

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