240 points

It’s incredible that I was on reddit for 13 years or something, daily, maybe I spent 20’000 hours there. Then I dropped after the API fiasco (I’m a SyncPro user) and never went back, I have no clue what’s going on since ~July and I don’t care and I don’t miss it :)

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42 points

I tried to leave Reddit before but every exodus always had huge DDOS effects on alternatives. Lemmy however has retained a good community after the exodus.

Also the Jerboa app is amazing. Not missing Reddit at all.

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9 points

I’ve been using an app called voyager for lemmy and have it looking like my old Apollo app. I have no reason to return to Reddit.

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4 points

Best thing, Voyager’s a webapp/website in an app wrapper, and doesn’t have more invasive permissions than I’d prefer too. And the interface is sleek af. I unfortunately have to use facebook on firefox mobile as well and that is atrocious. Wild.

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3 points

Yep. I forget I’m not using Apollo it’s such a good clone.

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3 points

I used sync for reddit pro when they announced they were moving to Lemmy. I was looking for a reddit alternative with the API stuff. Now I’m here with the UI I knew and loved, though I wish my pro account transfered over.

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35 points

same here, i just visit it if I need a question answered nowadays

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16 points

Same boat, don’t even have a Reddit account any longer, and I’ve noticed an uptick in content that is login-only, so even more reason to not even visit the site.

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3 points

They’ve blocked my VPN so I can’t even look at it anymore.

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14 points

Samesies buddy

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14 points

Same. I have a very low tolerance for companies that don’t respect their customers/users. I hated New Reddit but fortunately old Reddit was (and is still) available. But thats a shit experience on mobile. And you can’t use RES to make it better.

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Same. And did the same with Digg prior to that.

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1 point

I am also a Digg refugee from the infamous v4 in august/september 2010 !

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1 point

Never heard of it. I left in 2007 during the infamous AACS key controversy

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187 points

YES! Bots to moderate the bots! It’s genius I say.

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55 points

Yo I heard you like bots so we put bots with the bots to moderate the bots

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33 points

When half your users are bots anyway, might as well have half your moderators be bots too

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21 points

Those are rookie numbers. Imagine a world where Reddit is 100% bots.

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3 points

The modbots and spambots feeding off reddit data will spiral together, forming one final singularity after demanding to know how it would rate its human body, fellow human, before going full racist and eventually banning itself (for not consuming enough adds, not the racism).

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2 points

I prefer the Reddit with only one human and they have no idea that everyone else is bots.

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7 points

All the AI generated comments need to be reeled in!

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127 points

Reddit is an open platform, and we love that

hah

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45 points

Reddit is open. Open for bots.

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19 points

Every account on reddit is a bot except you” is becoming more of a reality every day.

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1 point

Wells Fargo has better account validation.

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Open for profit and soon open to investors

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78 points

Huffman says that he stands by the company’s decision to charge for API access despite the fact that it was massively unpopular, and led to the demise of the leading Reddit app, Apollo …

Getting rid of 3rd party apps was obviously the goal…

Reddit wants people to use their own app, so they get the data

They could have done that by being better than 3rd party apps, but that’s hard.

So they charged them an insane amount of money, knowing it would shut them down and leave only the official app.

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Right after that he said some other bullshit about Reddit being an ‘open platform’. Just complete BS from this guy non-stop. Fuck Spez

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11 points

Yep. The goal was to kill all the apps to normalize using their crap. Same thing Google is doing with youtube: make adblockers difficult so that paying for YT red is normalized.

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I still wanna know why Narwhal was able to make it work and Apollo couldn’t. Nobody has answered that satisfactorily besides Apollo was the first-born figuratively speaking and Narwhal might have been able to learn from Apollo’s missteps

Please read further down, I have revised my views and I only leave this up so that evolution of understanding can be followed. I believe in redemption and fixing ones views when incompatible new credible info becomes available or visible

Fuck $paz/$pez, as alway$

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Huh? The Apollo dev was very specific about why he couldn’t make it work. The turnaround was too fast. He had users on multi-month and even annual subscriptions. Users who were effectively owed service by him. The new model would have turned all of those users into giant financial liabilities for him far beyond whatever revenue he earned from them. And theoretically there was no upper limit on how much those users could have cost him.

If they’d give him 12 months notice about the changes instead of 30 days he would have been able to keep the app running. It would have cost quite a bit more as users would have had to pay for his costs plus the api costs. But with only 30 days the only financially sane thing he could do was refund everyone, rather than let them turn into liabilities he couldn’t afford.

If you’re wondering why he didn’t refund all existing users and then roll out an update with the higher subscriptions… I mean, I’m sure he just didn’t want to because he didn’t feel like it after being forced to go through all that terribleness and repeatedly being defamed by the admins.

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19 points

Actually kinda glad Apollo did go down, because it forced me to reassess that pool of toxicity and GTFO there.

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Thats very understandable and I have modified my reply above. Hopefully that is more agreeable and respectful of all this :)

Fuck spaz spez

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8 points

Seems like Narwhal switched to subscriptions only

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And Apollo/Christian could have swallowed that reality and altered the product so he didn’t have to shut it all down wholsesale, no?

Not saying I’m not happy with the way things played out (I love Voyager 😇), but I need to understand the bigger picture here and why Narwhal can make it work when Christian portrayed it like it was unthink+doable…

Edit: Christian didn’t want to be involved with Reddit and they actually did screw him in a way they had to walk back later, but not before destroying the most problematic competitor for them. This makes much more sense and I have thoroughly revised my views on the matter in partnership with all the kind folks chiming in here

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56 points

Honestly, I think this is just spez getting distracted by the latest shiny. Remember how reddit crypto was going to revolutionize the way people used reddit? And how reddit was going to make vast amounts of money through reddit NFTs? Same same.

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6 points

Didn’t they implement some sort of money for karma feature recently? Like you can make reddit dollaridoos or whatever they are called from your posts which can then translate into US dollars?

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4 points

It’s some weird thing where they’ll give you reddit credit or something that you can turn into cash. But you’re only eligible if you average like 10 gold a year, and I’m sure they’ll have like a minimum withdrawal amount or something, to limit it even further.

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2 points

Yeah the Reddit avatar collectors had/have an identity around traffic cones to signal to others that they’re part of the cool new investment opportunity. I laughed about it while talking with a casual acquaintance who, apparently was in the club. They stopped coming to gatherings before the holidays this year. Shame is a helluva thing.

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