Man Found Guilty of Child Porn, Because He Ran a Tor Exit Node::undefined

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They convicted him on “supporting the transfer of underage pornography”, i.e. he ran an exit node that “allowed” the upload of CP to an Austrian image hoster. Apparently, he wasn’t protected because he ran the exit as an individual, not a registered company. Most likely, the Austrian authority checked who uploaded the images, and found his IP address, which became the basis for convicting him. He didn’t have any of the materials because all those stuffs were encrypted in transit.

He mentioned that law that was used to prosecute him was changed a few weeks later to protect individuals as well. He apparently now ran Tor exits under an offshore company.

In summary, from what he said, he just happened to run an unrestricted exit node that some people used to upload CP.

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I mean… that is the big issue with things like tor and the decentralized youtube alternative everyone wants.

This is an issue on Lemmy as well, one that very few so far seem to have wisened up to. If you host a server and federate it, your server will pull, store and display the content your users are watching for all to see. So you could be on the hook for distributing illegal material if you don’t preemptively defederate from instances potentially hosting content that is illegal for you to possess.

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I mean you could say the same thing about any entity hosting public wifi, but I doubt the local cafe owner has to worry when someone breaks the law on their guest network.

This feels really inconsistent is the main problem.

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dude is innocent man.

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I mean he’s not. He did literally allow CP to be uploaded. And he literally wasn’t legally protected.

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But I personally can’t support anything where “Oh well, I guess I accidentally supported the proliferation of CSAM”.

Does this mean you’re opposed to, say, roads, because they can be used to transport child porn? How about postal services—they’ll even pick it up and deliver it wherever you want!

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Does he/people get paid for running the exit node?

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There are 7,000+ Tor relays, and 2,000+ bridges being run by entities including individuals, orgs, corporations, and most likely governments. (https://metrics.torproject.org/networksize.html) So, the answer is yes, no, and something in between. He himself didn’t say, but the article portrayed him of being an individual who believed in free speech, an activity which Tor does help support.

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AFAIK you should never run one on your personal IP

Edit, wasn’t a personal IP. I mistook it when I read his apartment got raided. Advice still stands tho.

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There will still be a trail. Even if you’re renting a server. Who’s CC is on file? Unless you want to waste your time buying prepaid visas. And even at that, they could track it to the retailer and find out which CC was used to order that. And even if you went in person, there’s likely video footage. Etc etc etc. It’s incredibly hard to remain hidden nowadays.

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Monero go brrr

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He was convicted (and given probation) for supporting the transfer for Child Porn, not for accessing it or creating it.

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I read in one of VPS rental service Discord that someone rented a VPS to run tor exit node and HDDs of the server were confiscated without prior notice.

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Sorry I am not very techy, can someone eli5 what is an exit node? What is the point of running an exit node? Should the user have known his exit node (not sure if i am using the term right) could be used for cp?

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if you join the tor network other tor users proxy their trafic through a chain of tor users and therefore maybe though you, sometimes youre the exit node that then actually sends the request to the server in question, sometimes you just pass it on to another tor user.

so the person in the OP did technically send the reques to the server that served CP, but he didnt really have anything to do with it nor could he have even accessed the data.

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Just to clarify, running an exit node is not something that happens automatically when you browse via tor. It’s something intentional that you configure

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One would not expect an exit node to be used for cp. A relay node would be more likely used for cp as one would expect the request to be internal to the tor network. A tor exit node is only used to access sites on the regular internet, not the “dark net”

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