20 points

Nice, Ubuntu LTS (22.04) seems to fully work out of the box. Although I’d have expected more distros to work like that (even the officially-supported Fedora needs some extra steps to get everything running and its stability is described as “some risk”).

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Not yet fully since fingerprint is not supported in all variants.

Also with the “stability” topic. This can mean everthing from hibernation issues to power management.

I think Framework knows exactly why they don’t offer preinstalled Linux yet.

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its stability is described as “some risk”)

I wonder if that just means that Fedora is (almost-but-not-quite) rolling release, and thus is inherently riskier if you need stability? That’s how I interpreted it, but if it’s referring to some kind of Framework-specific issues, then that’s concerning.

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I’ll say it again: I want to buy one of these. They’re awesome (from what I’ve seen). It’d be my Linux laptop. But I’m a Mac guy and after the novelty wore off, it’d go unused. Still, if Apple fucks up their OS enough, this will be my escape hatch.

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You might want to experiment with Ubuntu some day. It can be installed to a Mac if you have one lying around, and the default Ubuntu experience is surprisingly Mac-like.

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I have spare computer hardware and I’ve installed Ubuntu, Fedora, and Asahi. I like them. Not enough to switch, but maybe if Apple keeps letting their software decline.

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I just with mac’s weren’t so expensive, dang nice hardware

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Just really really bad at being able to fix or upgrade said hardware for literally no reason (aside from money of course). Which is a shame since yes physically nice the hardware is in plenty of ways.

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11 points

Unfortunately they don’t have a version with Coreboot

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i hope we get an update soon. if we get coreboot AND a removal of intel ME or amd PSP theres nothing i can think of holding it back.

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iirc there was a different thread about intel me where someone mentioned it being baked into the silicon

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It is, but as far as I understand, you can disable some of it depending on your coreboot/libreboot setup.

Coreboot is open source, but when you build the rom for your machine, you have to pack in closed source blobs for Intel me, and any other proprietary parts of the chip.

I’m not up to date on current happenings with libreboot, but the goal there was to get it working 100% open source, without closed source blobs.

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Pop_OS also worked for me OOTB (11th Gen Intel)

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There are tradeoffs between different distributions, especially if you’re on the latest hardware. Some distributions like Fedora have aggressive kernel update policies, which means you’ll have the latest driver optimizations, but also greater risk that an update can cause regressions. Other distributions like Ubuntu LTS have more conservative update policies, and are more likely to remain stable as you perform updates.

That’s just Fedora, I’ve had to go back to the previous kernel already once or twice before and wait for the next update (one or two days later) to update after they fix it. Thanks to Snapper it’s no problem.

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