Original toot in Spanish says: “OK, so I need some alternatives to Google Maps, because I just decided seconds ago to stop using it after I got proposed a trip with a completely unnecessary detour which adds two extra minutes just because it pass by a gas station that sponsors this trip.”

12 points

I thought I was going crazy but the last time I used Google maps right as I was at a fork a Walgreens™️ ad took over the whole screen and I was like wtf, thankfully I wasn’t driving so I was able finagle out of it, but it literally took over and we drove past it. I am also looking for alternatives, I’ve been thinking about getting a Garmin for my car, but I’ll be absolutely damned if they think I’m going to tolerate ads that can get me lost in pensly-tucky 😡

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This would be an excellent idea for toll highway owners. If the toll is more than what they need to pay google.

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I’ve been waiting for the “Avoid tolls” option to pop out of existence one day with no public explanation.

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I’ve never seen that before but that doesn’t mean it isn’t real. Perhaps it is a market area test thing but it could also be a custom route on the web version of Google Maps where you drag the line over. Just like that user tried to manufacture hate for G Maps a few days ago complaining about a ridiculous route to Burger King in another country but it was actually the Magic Earth Navigation & Maps application.

I’ve been looking into something like OsmAnd and OsmAnd+ (uses OpenStreets and Maps) because I want better feature sets, specifically features that are locked behind G Map’s having to set a destination. OsmAnd also has some pretty cool plugins like Parking Position, Mapillary (for Google Streets-like views) to bring it to closer parity with G Maps but also Weather to show weather forecasts along your route on-screen and External Sensors so you could put your Bicycle Fitness stuff (Ant+, etc) on-screen and record it on the recorded route.

I previously looked at TomTom AmiGo as a sort of trial for TomTom Go but I didn’t like the routing sometimes and with TomTom Go you need to pay a subscription for stuff that shouldn’t require one.

For example, features such as showing traffic congestion around you, accidents up ahead and showing the speed limit of the current road you are on only shows up when you put in a destination. This feature has been asked about for years on Google’s forums yet it still hasn’t happened. I believe Waze does this but I don’t like constant ads.

I’m definitely OK with paying for apps that are useful and prefer it.

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Even if this isn’t true, as some here suggest, it still points to an idea that might or might not come to Google Maps in the future. What would prevent them from suggesting multiple routes, where the first route is an advertised one, and we’d have to explicitly scroll a few pixels down to get to the non-advertised one. It’s the same with the Google search results.

So, we should really think of an alternative before it’s too late.

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If they can’t monetize, they drop. In business terms that makes sense. No profit? Stop the bleeding.

In a wider sense though, Google has done a tremendous job at showing me I can’t rely on them for almost anything. I’ve begun moving email, search, browser, cloud storage… Within a few months Android Auto will be the only thing I can’t undo, except to use my car’s nav. Maybe I’ll do that too.

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How has your email transition been? I have been moving away from Google slowly for a few years/intentionally avoiding onboarding with Google services. I don’t use Chrome, no google search, haven’t used messenger ever, that sort of thing.

But moving away from Gmail is hard. Would love your thoughts.

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I’ve noticed Waze (owned by Google) sometimes suggests a route I don’t feel like (eg I’m on the highway and not in a rush so I don’t feel like taking an exit Waze suggests), but when I ignore it and it recalculates, the estimated time goes down.

On the one hand, I know that it has to explore the alternative routes from time to time to know which ones are fastest and that if it’s directing a sufficient portion of the overall flow, it has to use multiple routes or else any single route it suggests will become bogged down with too much traffic, but I gotta wonder if there’s other motivations, especially when it’s a highway exit.

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Does waze have a fuel saving mode? It might be sending you down an exit because the route uses less fuel. I doubt waze and google maps has enough users to cause too much traffic. Surely most people drive familiar routes. I could be wrong.

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4 points

What makes you think non-sponsored routes will even be available then?

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IMO this is the main take.

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The picture suggests that there was an ad that suggested a stop at the sponsored gas station, if the user clicked on the suggestion / ad, then the route would be modified.

IMO that’s massively different than the detour being added by default. If they actually did / were doing that, it would be a huge scandal, but I don’t think that’s what’s happening here. Instead, it’s just an intrusive, annoying ad.

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64 points

Your story doesn’t drive clicks though…

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12 points

Yeah, about 0% richer now compared with yesterday.

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5 points

Here’s some Lemmy gold 🏆

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You’re right that this is not generating monetary gains

But it’s generating outrage towards Google when what you accuse them of doing isn’t the reality, that’s pretty disingenuous

Not defending Google as a whole, but let’s keep honest about the current developments

The day sponsored trips are the default is the day I’m dropping Maps

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58 points

Damn monetization of *checks notes* Mastodon and Lemmy! Those communists are ruining everything!

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8 points

Might be. It’s indeed hard to tell by the picture, but the user seems to knows the place so I don’t know. What seems about right is the title is misleading so I’m going to change it.

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12 points

Please change “added a sponsored detour” to “proposed a sponsored detour” and it won’t be as misleading anymore

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1 point

Thanks for the proposal!

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13 points

The picture shows the “eco” route which is a setting you can turn on/off that selects gas saving routes even if they add some minutes to the trip

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Thanks for doing that.

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