Frustrated by “rogue buses” from Texas dropping off migrants by the thousands, the mayors of New York, Chicago and Denver are trying to slow the surge by requiring the bus operators to coordinate arrivals under the threat of impound, fines and even jail time.

Last week, 14 busloads of migrants from Texas made their way to New York City – the highest total recorded since spring 2022, Mayor Eric Adams said, citing the city’s Asylum Seeker Arrival Center.

At the direction of Texas’ Republican Gov. Greg Abbott, the Lone Star state has bused over 90,000 migrants to “sanctuary cities” run by Democrats like Washington, DC, New York City, Chicago, Philadelphia, Denver and Los Angeles since April 2022, according to numbers released by the governor’s office Friday.

In justifying the busing of migrants who cross the southern border, Abbott in a statement last year said “it was just Texas and Arizona that bore the brunt of all the chaos and problems that come with it.”

“Now, the rest of America can understand exactly what is going on,” he said.

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This is the best summary I could come up with:


Frustrated by “rogue buses” from Texas dropping off migrants by the thousands, the mayors of New York, Chicago and Denver are trying to slow the surge by requiring the bus operators to coordinate arrivals under the threat of impound, fines and even jail time.

“We’re saying that between a certain period of time you are allowed to drop off migrants in the city, but you’re going to do it at the location that we specified, so we don’t overtax our resources, our manpower, and create this orderly environment,” Adams said on CNN.

“The inhumane treatment further endangers the safety and security of asylum seekers, and adds additional strain to city departments, volunteers and mutual aid partners tasked with easing what is already a harsh transition.”

Surrounding Chicago communities are also trying to control the influx, requiring buses to obtain a permit before dropping off migrants, like in the village of Elburn, an hour outside the city.

Earlier this month, 38 migrants arrived at the Elburn stop on the commuter rail system in the Chicago metropolitan area, and were accompanied by a security guard, liaison and bus driver, according to the minutes from the village board meeting December 27.

Denver is working to put emergency rules into place that limit drop-offs from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. Monday through Friday, Fuja said, to ensure city staff is available to support migrants as they arrive and help them get to shelter.


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Why is no one being arrested for human trafficking? It’s human trafficking no matter what the immigrant’s legal status is.

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I feel like I remember investigations when this stuff first happened, but they never went anywhere. I think the GOO has claimed they have the consent of the people on the buses, although it sounds like they are being mislead.

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Are they making them sign something?

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A lot of those people were lied to by the GOP politicians and staff

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I keep hearing that they’re misled. I can believe it. Has anyone gone undercover for a story or as an investigation to see what actually happens?

We need some hard reporting because all I see now is racial bias being triggered on the left. It’s done with the best of intentions, but it’s there nonetheless.

I live in California. Soon they’ll be eligible to get Medical insurance. I have no issue with this. Let’s empower people. Not resent them in some kind of low key way.

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Here’s one story from last time about them being misled when sent to Martha’s Vineyard.

Detailing “how its clients were induced to board airplanes and cross state lines under false pretenses,” the legal aid group said that only after the planes landed did the immigrants “learn that the offers of assistance had all been a ruse to exploit them for political purposes.”

Basically they were told they were being helped or sent to one place where they have a hearing scheduled, or that their hearing was moved, then they’d be sent to whatever city instead.

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I am not sure they are being misled. I am also comfortable with more open border policies. But I also understand the border states being a bit frustrated. It fairly easy to shit on them when your state doesn’t see the issues first hand. But getting back to the misleading part. With so many immigrants in a smaller area, being spread to cities like new York would certainly give them far more work options. Also a great deal of them may have relatives in various areas and this would make it easier to join them. I think this is a bonus overall to immigrants.

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“Increase Human Suffering” should be the 2024 RNC convention theme. That they are sending people with absolutely no notice is unconscionable. There are people and organizations all over the country who will put in effort to prepare for the arrival of these human beings, but Abbott seems to want it to be a surprise, and to further increase these people’s suffering in order to try to make a political message.

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Can we just send abbot by bus to Guadalajara or somewhere without notice?

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Cruelty is the point.

That’s the DARVO movement/party slogan. One of stinky don’s base said the quiet part out loud: “He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting”. This is their thing - they don’t want to help all Americans, they want to HURT people who are not themselves.

Conservatism is a sickness.

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Yep. Quite ironic the extent to which they are able to win votes is based on hatred and harming others, when, you know that Jesus guy basically went around feeding the poor and homeless, telling people to give all their stuff to the poor and embrace a life of service to others and to a spirituality that focused on community, not in grandiose megachurches, but in a humble home willing to host a ragtag bunch of social outcasts and misfits.

American Christianity is so fucking awful.

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This is such a cluster. The right is obviously doing this just to “own the libs”, but really, what is the end game here? There are plenty of liberals that are seeking serious policies that address the border w/o the dumb posturing of the far right that are mostly about white supremacy. If the right was even remotely serious about immigration, they would be calling for imprisoning those that employ undocumented workers and if the right’s concerns were only about economic anxiety, that would take care of most of this jibber jabber, though of course, there would still be the matter of asylum seekers.

How many on the right are doing this, though?

It’s so hard to have a serious conversation about this. Of course, the very fringes of the left (and they are probably a very tiny, but overly vocal minority that make it easy for the far right to point at the most ridiculous examples and say we are all like this) don’t help by painting everything as being a simplistic white=bad, POC=good. I would argue nearly everyone wants some control of our borders and who gets in and how they are vetted and most of this sentiment is not racially motivated. It’s just a matter of degrees as to how much control, how many people and so on.

When it comes to asylum seekers, the right almost universally refuses to consider the holistic picture and America’s hand in creating the outcomes of having asylum seekers in the first place…

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Border states have been ignored for decades. Once Spanish was a language you heard across America, people paid more attention.

Where should these 90k people live? That’s an honest question. It is. Should they get housing when homeless Americans don’t? Should they be given a bus voucher that can’t be sold? What are border states supposed to do?

If a real border could be done while handling environmental and race concerns, I’m down for it. Climate change may make this all seem timid and we’re acting like that’s not a thing.

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Should they get housing when homeless Americans don’t?

How about housing both groups? Last I checked, America had a lot of space.

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Whose responsibility would that be? State, federal, city, county?

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Once Spanish was a language you heard across America, people paid more attention.

This may surprise you but not all of us reject people based on skin color or ethnicity. Cities, especially, have always included people of many ethnicities and speaking many languages. You’d have to go very far back to find a tone when Spanish was uncommon in many Northern cities

Where should these 90k people live? … Should they get housing when homeless Americans don’t?

Homeless people are homeless people, and 90k is not that large a number relative to the entire population

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This has been happening for years, across the country in conservative controlled states and cities, and all of the insane conservative radio talk show listeners still blame the increase of homelessness in cities they dont live in, but work in, on city policies aimed at helping the homeless.

In fact, an idea that at least was going around conservative talk radio around Seattle was that actually people who do not live in Seattle city limits, but commute in for work, should be able to vote in Seattle elections.

This is so astoundingly absurd that it hurts to think about. For one, if this went through, it would mean directlty tying ability to vote to having a job. That is astoundingly anti-democratic. For two (?), this kind of blows up the entire idea of tje American political system, as well a basically any democratic government I have ever even heard of in the last 100 years. Oh right and #3, this prioritizes commuting and car ownership basically formalizing society into a kind of caste system of car owners and non car owners.

But really the most absurd thing is that these conservative radio hosts will then flip on a dime to making some kind of ‘actually i am a constitutional scholar and understander of all legal precedent of all kinds’ type of persona/argument to argue for or against some other position, seemingly actually unaware of the massive hypocrisy.

In conclusion, modern American conservatism is a delusional hyper aggressive irrational death cult. They literally hate the poor and the homeless /so much/ they will abandon what were previously self professed hallmarks of their own ideology if it means they can harm those with the least in society even more.

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people who do not live in Seattle city limits, but commute in for work, should be able to vote in Seattle elections.

There’s definitely something to be said for city limits to expand, or for services like taxation and transit to be regionalized over all people using city resources

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