you know I think most people understand that a comedian’s “role” is to be funny, right. and then, they will argue against that comedian, on the basis that they are not living up to their role, they’re not funny. dave’s wrong because he’s not funny. if only dave was funny, then what he’s doing would be fine! I think this is kind of misguided, kind of dumb. you argue against them, accepting the premise of their argument, but then you have an inability to fully take their perspective, see the comedy they apparently can see, and then it kind of falls flat. you’re also not the arbiter of comedy, like, have some perspective, some shitheels are going to find that funny, and their comedy, you know, it exists. we have to stop pretending like it doesn’t.
no, my issue isn’t with his comedy, whether or not he’s funny, I don’t really give a shit about that. I care about whether or not what he’s doing is morally right. comedy is just kind of blatant escapism anyways. are the dozens of people saved from suicide by direct consequence of watching dave’s comedy, are they worth the lifetimes of time wasted on watching him? I don’t want to get like morally puritanical about all media, or say that countercultural media has no place in society, right, but I also think that you have to be trying to do something with your media. just kind of throwing it out there so people can whittle away their life on laughing at your funnyman jokes is kind of lame. that’s why george carlin was good. george carlin was actually not that funny. I know, sacrilege, heresy, whatever. I prefer mitch hedberg, pure wordplay. it’s not that he was funny, it’s that he was legitimately correct, and radical for the time, and unfortunately still somewhat radical today. but it stems from the fact that he was correct. dave being funny, not funny, whatever. but dave is just blatantly incorrect in his worldview, here. the perspective from which he makes these jokes, i’m sure the jokes he’s cracking are funny from that perspective, but it’s a wrong perspective, a bad perspective. it shouldn’t like, not be allowed, be outlawed, not be conversed with, discussed, but it’s a wrong perspective. and i find his comedy to be bad on that basis, rather than on the basis that he’s not funny.
Chappelle does this because of something people are afraid to talk about because of the identity of the person doing this. An easier way to understand it is identity politics. Didn’t he admit that trans people get more shit than black people now? They don’t even dog whistle us. People can talk about outright killing trans people and incite violence without any consequences. And it’s not like the police like us either.
I stopped watching this guy when he sold out to Elon Musk. How lost do you have to be to do that when you’re as famous as this guy was?
Dave became a rich old white hick. It’s not just bad trans humor, it’s old, tired ass bad trans humor. Same style of jokes rich old racist morons use. Hicks absolutely love that kind of empty headed shit though, so they defend him.
The Beaverton is Canadian Satire news. Don’t ya feel like an idiot now lmao
The only thing better than watching a bully make an ass of themselves is when they do it trying to mock someone else for not understanding something when they are actually the person who doesn’t understand. I’ve seen two today already, the assholes are out in force!
Tl;dr: wicked self own bro.
Now the fact that Dave disappeared to FUCKING OHIO and “worked on comedy” in fucking OHIO tells you everything you need to know about how fucking unfunny Dave Chappelle is now.
I used to be a huge fan. Now he’s just not funny anymore bigot or no.
Dude was a guy who was totally willing to call bullshit to things and stand up for people.
But then for some reason, he saw a group of marginalized individuals being mistreated, feeling isolated and committing suicide and said, “Let me fuck with them too.”
The karma is when his kids turn on him.
Now the fact that Dave disappeared to FUCKING OHIO and “worked on comedy” in fucking OHIO tells you everything you need to know about how fucking unfunny Dave Chappelle is now.
I don’t think Yellow Springs, OH is the reason Dave Chappelle is now a transphobic asshole, as you’re suggesting. Yellow Springs was first started as an attempt to create a socialist utopia. It’s super hippie dippy, and home to a notable liberal arts school. It’s historically much much more liberal than the rest of Ohio.
Also he’s lived there since like 2005, well before his transition into a transphobic asshole.
In my opinion, the reason is money, along with the “fuck you I got mine” attitude that comes with oodles and oodles of money.
I’m not a coward about words, but I’ve had this point deleted by mods before.
Malcolm describes the difference between the “house **gro” and the “field **gro.”
If someone came to the house **gro and said, “Let’s go, let’s separate,” naturally that Uncle Tom would say, “Go where? What could I do without boss? Where would I live? How would I dress? Who would look out for me?” That’s the house **gro. But if you went to the field **gro and said, “Let’s go, let’s separate,” he wouldn’t even ask you where or how. He’d say, “Yes, let’s go.” And that one ended right there.
Full speech: https://ccnmtl.columbia.edu/projects/mmt/mxp/speeches/mxa17.html
It wasn’t just tired-arse bad trans humour, it was tired-arse bad humour. I got 17 minutes in before I had to stop - I got past the offensive jokes, and then I was stuck listening to jokes other comedians were telling 20 years ago. If I’d kept listening, I’m sure he eventually would’ve made a joke about airline food.
He’s been smoking so much weed the last 20 years the world passed him by.