Am I happy that socialism is infiltrating the Vatican? Or worried that Catholicism will infect socialism?
Yeah, except Jesus was essentially teaching socialism:
40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew 25:40-45&version=NIV
You might be confusing it with communism, which seems like it cannot be implemented without totalitarianism. The totalitarianism is what makes it a bad political system and we are shown that we don’t need communism for totalitarianism. Best example of that is currently Russia.
It’s scary that there are actually people who call themselves Christians and are attracted to such oppressive system.
I’m not going to question your Bible studies, but I am absolutely going to question your communism studies.
between Christians, Marxists
Listen, Papa Frank, you can’t really claim to follow the teachings of Christ without already being a little Marxist yourself.
Uh, has Mr. Pope read any Marx?
Marx’s view of communism doesn’t inherently ban religion. His view of religion was that it was a tool by the ruling classes to maintain the status quo against the oppressed, and that under communism religion wouldn’t hold any political power because, by his words, the conditions that allowed religion to hold political power such as inequality wouldn’t be present anymore. But he didn’t call for the abolition of religion or that religion couldn’t exist at all in a communist society, that was more of a Marxist-Leninist way of thinking.
It is a tool by the ruling classes, but alongside a lot of other tools. I don’t know Marx view on religion in any deep sense, but I always understood hisvieww as religion emerging as a coping mechanism in some ways, or emerging as a coping mechanism, or just a byproduct of the human experience maybe…?, he does say religion is the heart in a heartless world, etc.
and maybe that’s how it becomes a tool, co-opted and utilized for class interests.
Honestly it’s time christians actually started following the teachings of christ again.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_corporatism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism
Corporatism developed during the 1850s in response to the rise of classical liberalism and Marxism, as it advocated cooperation between the classes instead of class conflict. Corporatism became one of the main tenets of fascism, and Benito Mussolini’s fascist regime in Italy advocated the total integration of divergent interests into the state for the common good;[4] however, the more democratic neo-corporatism often embraced tripartism.[5][6]
