The u.s. birt rate has been declining since the 2007 recession. It also declined during the great depression. This is a failing of u.s. economic policy. There’s not enough regulations on businesses and the middle class is suffering. Many people don’t think it’s responsible to bring children into the world when there’s no hope for a decent future for them.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2020/08/20/key-findings-about-u-s-immigrants/
https://econofact.org/the-mystery-of-the-declining-u-s-birth-rate
That’s fine if birth rates are falling (to some extent) but they still shouldn’t be eclipsed by illegal immigration.
Although illegal migration numbers haven’t changed much since 2005, the demographics of illegal immigrants have. It’s important to ask why people are illegally migrating into the u.s. A more effective strategy would be to address those issues, especially because the u.s. greatly contributed to destabilizing South and Central America.
https://www.migrationpolicy.org/sites/default/files/Explainer-IllegalImmigration-PRINT-Final.pdf
This is a good example of misinformation that only works by abusing the poor critical thinking skills that are quintessentially American.
In the first like…3-4 minutes, this dude is like, “Look! Illegal encounters have soared to new heights! Oh my god, the world is clearly coming from America!” Needless to say, a bunch of people are trying to get into the country.
Then, right after he starts recounting instances of…not exactly crimes…but of people who have been arrested and something bad that happened. He follows it up with “I can tell you hundreds of stories like this”…sure he can…
But let’s assume he can. Go back to that chart about illegal encounters in Joe Biden’s first term: 12,099,904 illegal encounters!
This is a real life math problem basically.
If we have 12 million encounters with migrants, and (let’s say) 600 of them will go on to commit crimes, then what are the chances that any given illegal immigrant will commit a crime?
600 over 12 million…do some quick mafs…=0.00005. In other words, assuming we let all 12 million immigrants in, there is a 1/20,000 chance they’ll go on to commit crime. So scary! I bet the crime rate of native born Americans eclipses that by an order of magnitude at least.
And if you think he fairly characterizes AOC’s position, you’d also be wrong. In the clip he played, she’s talking about the current undocumented population within the U.S., not so much letting more in. But then he goes to to criticize what is definitely not AOC’s position from the clip he played.
Then he compares a country to a business. Anyone who buys into that analogy deserves to be treated like corporations treat their lowest employees.
God damn it, I hate this guy. He said earlier, that H1B visa applications had skyrocketed under Biden. These are specialty occupations according to the government. Then, towards the end, he’s like, “Are these people software engineers? Are they coders? Most likely not.” That’s in direct contradiction to what he said earlier about the H1B visa applications.
There is no reason to believe anything this guy says. Even if there is a border crisis, any information from him about anything at all should be summarily dismissed until he gets his shit together.
Hard to call it a conspiracy theory when the statistics are this clear, and the democrats are so clearly pro-illegal immigration.
Plus it’s completely about cheap labor and profit. You know, like slavery. Funny how the democrats are still all about that cheap labor, over a century later. Hell, illegals can’t buy guns legally, just like slaves couldn’t buy guns legally. And how in Jim Crow, ex-slaves couldn’t buy guns.
And yes, the Southern Strategy was the greatest PR campaign ever.
Hard to call it a conspiracy theory when the statistics are this clear
To quote lookin:
"God damn it, I hate this guy. He said earlier, that H1B visa applications had skyrocketed under Biden. These are specialty occupations according to the government. Then, towards the end, he’s like, “Are these people software engineers? Are they coders? Most likely not.” That’s in direct contradiction to what he said earlier about the H1B visa applications.
There is no reason to believe anything this guy says. Even if there is a border crisis, any information from him about anything at all should be summarily dismissed until he gets his shit together."
the democrats are so clearly pro-illegal immigration.
Not really. The democrats want to unfuck the regulation preventing legal immigration. Until that happens (can’t happen till the GOP stops blocking attempts to reform), the only pathway for a lot of people will be illegal immigration.
And yes, the Southern Strategy was the greatest PR campaign ever.
So then you’re aware that the republican party more closely represents a desire for cheap labor/slave labor than the democratic party. You have no real point.
Not really. The democrats want to unfuck the regulation preventing legal immigration. Until that happens (can’t happen till the GOP stops blocking attempts to reform), the only pathway for a lot of people will be illegal immigration.
We take in a fifth of the world’s immigrants, last time I checked. At some point, you have to say “This is too many, please take a number and wait your turn”. Have you seen Canada’s issues? They can’t build homes quick enough, let alone upgrade infrastructure. There is a rate of immigrants that can be handled, and we’re well beyond that.
Illegal immigration just creates more problems, and is entirely selfish. Hell, just sending a few thousand to NYC caused massive problems that it was considered an attack. That’s less than what we get in one day.
So then you’re aware that the republican party more closely represents a desire for cheap labor/slave labor than the democratic party. You have no real point.
No it doesn’t. There was no change in policies at all. The democrats are still for the same things they were in the civil war.
I keep clicking on these conservative posts hoping to find one worth up voting because I’m tired of the extremist left politics on Lemmy… but clickbait YouTube videos?
Is this just a misinformation effort to divide people or what?
In the past week, there have been two YouTube links, one of which was an academic-style video.
Fair enough, I’ll keep looking for conservative content I feel I can up vote. Fwiw I didn’t downvote this post and did up vote your comment.
Just trying to balance out the radicalism on here, and conservative ideology does have some valid points.
Yeah, that’s reasonable. I just left my retort because something I see extremely frequently in online discussion is people feigning friendlinesswbile raising cherry picked issues. I’m not saying that you’re doing it, but I figured it merited a response to see your thoughts.
As someone who posts here (as well as the other conservative community), I’m curious what it is that you’re looking for but don’t see. There’s definitely some bottom of the barrel content, as with any community, but most of it seems pretty solid.
I didn’t think it was clickbait, the graphs he presents are all sourced. I’m also tired of the extremist left-wing politics on Lemmy, that’s why I posted something
I am conservative but I’m not religious. They places me about in the middle of most things since I’m not trying to annoy the religious and I’m not beating the Bible. Extreme left or right is dangerous. Any ideology that ignores other viewpoints is concerning.
What’s happening here is a derailment of any discussion about sensible border policy, and a distraction from the failure of the border wall plan that a certain republican repeatedly claimed Mexico would pay for (that Mexico never actually paid for), by means of attacking ideological opponents with specious accusations.
The pattern of manipulative behavior used by abusive people has an acronym: DARVO: deny, attack, reverse victim and offender. So it goes like this: republicans aren’t racist, democrats are the real racists. Republicans were just trying to protect America from a lot of bad hombres but dems are welcoming in illegals to exploit them for cheap labor and votes.
I see loud and accusatory distractions from the fact that the $15 billion border wall is regularly defeated by $5 ladders. I see rhetorical diversions around the fact that republicans regularly fly pro-slavery insurrectionist confederate battle flags. I see a strange fascination with the racist democrats of the 1800’s, meanwhile in 2024 senator Tuberville® claims white nationalists are not racists and Rep Crane® refers to African Americans as “colored people” during an anti-woke tirade.
And in the accusation about democrats wanting illegals for cheap labor, "like slaves"as is suggested, never will there ever be any acknowledgement of the decades long republican effort of a race-to-the-bottom erosion of workers rights and devaluation of labor in this country.
Are the democrats so great? No, they are very terrible. The other side is also bad, and is gas-lighteningly evasive and downright dishonest about the part they had to play in creating the current situation.
Wow so this is the state of Lemmy? Completely one-sided regressive left leaning politics, and open brigading of communities with differing political ideas? What happened to actual discussion? It just seems like the average Lemmy user is either 12 or is still seething at their dad while still living in mom’s basement lol