It seems as though we are going backwards. We were doing so well in realising that all human beings are worthy individuals with emotional and intellectual depth, yet now so many of us don’t seem to see any problem with society encouraging many to reduce themselves to sexual objects. How is this rationalised?

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You can be sexual and engage in pornography without objectifying yourself or others.

The better question is why we continue to allow our society to demonize sexuality. Own your sexuality. Fuck the church.

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This. It’s sinfully taboo and consequently deliciously titillating and commodified for exploitation. Cut it back to just a normal human action and a lot of that goes away

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Own your sexuality. Fuck the church.

Speaking of which:

For instance, in 2000, a jury in Provo, Utah, took only a few minutes to clear Larry Peterman, owner of a Movie Buffs video store, in Utah County, Utah. He had been charged with distributing obscene material for renting pornographic videos that were displayed in a screened-off area of the store clearly marked as adults-only. The Utah County region had often boasted of being one of the most socially conservative areas in the United States. However, researchers had shown that guests at the local Marriott Hotel were disproportionately large consumers of pay-per-view pornographic material, accessing far more material than the store was distributing.

source

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Based

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In what way do you see embracing sexuality as contradictory to being a whole human? Can you give examples?

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I dunno, in a lot of conversations amongst men it seems like women are simply thought of as sexual objects, with the rest largely forgotten. Does not seem very healthy to me.

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I agree that doesn’t seem healthy. Misogyny is nothing new, though, and in your post you said people are reducing themselves to sexual objects but the example is people reducing others to sexual objects, which is not really the fault or necessarily the intention of the person being objectified

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Of course, but the entire purpose of pornography is kind of to reduce people to sexual objects, isn’t it?

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Normalized???

It’s still literally rated as less family friendly than watching blood and gore murder.

If anything I’d argue that sexual repression is still going as strong as ever in some places. In some cases to unhealthy amounts.

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If you think porn and sexuality being normalized is a bad thing, you should reaaaaaaally think hard on your beliefs for a minute.

Sure, there’s the objectification of both men and women that pornography produces - that is a bad thing, but that’s not solely form porn either. Marketing ads love to objectify people (especially women) for an extra buck or two, and those are practically shoved in our faces openly every single day. Social media is basically just a gallery of this shit too if you’re just looking at whatever garbage the platform feeds you based on trends and what not.

Porn itself isn’t bad, and sexuality is arguably as important as both intellectual and emotional depth are because we’re humans and we have that primal part of our brains still. Yet in the US, for example, both of those things are worse than, say, a violent film. To me, that is the messed up part here.

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Sexuality being normalised isn’t a bad thing but have you seen the state of porn lately? the front page of any given porn tube site is such that you cannot have a wank in peace without seeing abusive ‘taboo’ stuff mostly around incest and women being spat on and strangled. I can’t believe that this is some agenda being pushed, they produce this content according to demand. This is to say nothing of the even darker stuff with revenge porn and trafficked teenagers etc. Porn can be fine if ethically produced, the current state of it is fucked up

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Did you think for a second and realise that some women enjoy being spat on and strangled? Just search for male porn in the same category and be amazed some men and nonbinary people also like to be spat on and strangled. Stop kinkshaming.

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Stop kinkshaming

No. Getting off on abuse and degradation is despicable

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It’s the same with the drug game. It’a not (all) drugs that are inherently bad… It the dealers pushing them.

It’s the same with porn… You have shitty marketing and businessmen pushing it.

Like… If you were prescribed Adderall and couldn’t get it because the shortage. If you knew a “good” dealer then they could get it for you and try to match your prescribed dose. But if you went to a “bad” dealer they’d push meth to get more sales in the future. Same goes for oxy and heroin/fent.

Marketing and the business is the evil. Not the actions so to speak. A good dealer or business man would help you stop if your life was going downhill.

Shit, it’s the same with social media influencers. They are just toxic and out for themselves.

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How is being sexual reducing oneself? Its a glorious, natural thing.

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am think is gross

also appeal to nature is bad argument

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Why is it gross? I mean drinking piss is gross, but nudity and sex are things that humans did for Milenas.

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because include having bodily fluid from someone else inside you

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shit gimmick

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why

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