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First source in the executive summary?

ADRIAN ZENZ

Tells you everything you need to know about this “research paper” 🥱

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Its exhausting to see one guy as the focal point of all anti-China criticism.

It just feels like getting all your news about Joe Biden from The Daily Caller.

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Apparently not me. Can you elaborate?

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Adrian Zenz is a right-wing christian fundamentalist, in his own words, “sent by god to destroy the CCP”. For his mission, he is ready to make up lots of crazy stuff. After he gets proven to be factually wrong or that he does not in any way have any form of scientific evidence for any of his claims, he doubles down on them. His “research” does not follow any scientifically acceptable method. For example, the figure millions of detained Uyghurs came from a sample group of 8 (eight) interviews. So even if you ignore his religious views and his political motivation in his work, the lack of scientific methods makes it unacceptable to cite him in a paper.

Lots of people put lots of effort into debunking his claims. Use a search engine and dig in!

Or use the opposite approach, thats what I did! Around 2019 when Zenz came up with his claims of the Uyghur Genocide, I was so shocked and found them so crazy and unacceptable that I really wanted to learn everything about it and find the evidence, understand whats going on. I had an unfavorable view of China (to put it mildly honestly) and was super motivated. Well… never found any evidence of genocide, cultural genocide, or anything coming close to such things, but it almost turned me into a Tankie, so always remain critical 😊

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I looked up Adrian zenz as soon as I received this comment. Zealots aren’t very endearing to me, But since his studies regarding Uyghurs haven’t been disproved, I kind of let the Christianity go.

There’s definitely a cultural genocide happening in xinjiang though, their culture is being dismantled very rapidly.

Camp guards and former prisoners and free citizens of xinjiang all attest to the CCP concentration camps, that uyghurs aren’t allowed to practice their religion or speak their mother tongue.

I don’t understand how you didn’t find any evidence. Do you mean you just don’t believe any of the articles or interviews or documentaries about the Uyghur re-education camps?

This is one of the concentration camps that a BBC News team was allowed inside of:

https://youtu.be/WmId2ZP3h0c

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ITT: Westerners coming across the concept of migrant labourers

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Neoliberals in a Western Country: “We need open borders so a guy living in Mexico can come up to Alabama and pick all our vegetables every summer, earning below-living wage, because this is economically efficient.”

Neoliberals in an Eastern Country: “Anyone not employed within five miles of their place of birth has been human trafficked.”

shrug What do you even do with this?

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I am shocked!

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Truly an unexpected development. No, not unexpected…Expected. That’s the word I’m looking for.

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