cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/1823812

This is an update to my previous post about suspicious inactive accounts on a handful of instances: (https://sh.itjust.works/post/998307).

I ended up messaging the admins at the 16 instances show in the attached image. I pointed out their wild user numbers, and referenced the lemmy.ninja post detailing how that instance scrubbed suspicious accounts from their user database.

6 admins responded. They had all noticed the odd accounts and either thought the numbers were wrong, or weren’t sure how to purge the suspicious accounts without nuking their databases. In the end they managed to delete a combined total of about 338k dormant accounts from their instances. (One of the instances seems to have gone down since then.)

I never received a reply from the other 10 instance admins, though 8 of those 10 instances appear to be down (as of 27 July 2023). 2 instances are still up and unchanged.

Between the actively removed accounts and the downed instances, this represents a loss of 930,004 inactive Lemmy accounts!

You can see the drop in the graphs on The Federation. The total number of Lemmy accounts has been cut in half over the past 3 weeks, from a peak of 2.18M to today’s 1.09M. The change is mostly from these 16 instances.

I have to admit, I did not expect such a large change when I started this! Hopefully this bodes well for Lemmy’s future as a place where actual humans interact, rather than a cesspool of automated comments and upvote/downvote brigading.

That’s all I have for now. Keep your stick on the ice; we’re all in this together.

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Great to see the transparency with which this is handled

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The transparency may be my very favorite part of Lemmy. It’s almost feels like these people are invested in it’s success instead of it’s profit.

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It’s a very early internet mindset where success == profit.

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Open source vs we’re a business mentality

Early internet grassroots collaboration stuff.

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Thank you for your work!

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Very nice, let’s try to keep this place as clean as possible

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Those are crazy numbers… WTF?

If that’s is the reality for Lemmy, I can’t imagine the number of bots giant social networks have. Crazy.

Thank you for your work.

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That’s the thing, right? Those giant networks’ admins surely know how inflated their userbase is. They surely know that a lot of the activity is bot faked/manipulated.

But since the end goal of those networks is generate traffic to sell something (ads, user data), they never purge the bots. They need fake engagement. They might even promote it. The human user is just being used (Cf. Stallman’s use of this term).

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Well, thanks for being part of the problem.

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I want to celebrate two things. 1. Your awareness of the potential dangers looming over the fediverse. 2. Your proactive attitude curtailing the problem at its root. From one human to another, thank you!

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