Claims that electric vehicles don’t have enough demand may be overblown.

A new study from GBK Collective, published Thursday, found that half of the more than 2,000 US car consumers they interviewed were considering either an electric or a hybrid car for their next vehicle purchase.

This far outweighs the current ownership trends found in the study. Only 14% of those surveyed already own a plug-in or hybrid vehicle of some kind. It’s another piece of evidence of a huge opportunity for EV manufacturers to home in on the needs of these green car-curious consumers.

“These are not the same kind of customers who created the initial EV market,” GBK President Jeremy Korst told Business Insider in an interview.

“These are later adopters, and because of that, they’re not as driven by innovation or even design,” Korst said. “They have more functional needs, and they’re much more pragmatic and thinking about the total cost of ownership both in price and in effort, like, ‘how do I charge so what’s that going to take? How much time is it going to take me?’”

79 points

I’d like one not connected to a hateful, megalomaniacal egobeast.

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Plenty of options besides Tesla.

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And China’s about to hit the market hard. You know, if you don’t mind them scraping your data.

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Ah cheap chinese garbage. Just what I want to be driving.

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If the 25% tariff on Chinese EVs went away, they would flood the American market just like Honda and Toyota in the 80s. We need a cheap sedan EV, and nobody is filling that segment in the US.

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When the roadster came out I wanted one, but I wanted to see how the brand fared in general for a few years first. Plus I couldn’t really afford to upgrade my 1995 volvo.

When the model S was released I wanted one. It seemed practical, but it still wasn’t affordable for me to replace my old 1995 volvo.

When 3 was released I didn’t really care, because it seemed like a downgraded S.

When X (the car) was released I wanted one because m It seemed to be exactly what I needed.

But then:
Stories with quality control issues with Tesla becme more and more frequent.
EM proved himself to be a complete asshat (I had my suspicions, so I wasn’t that surprised when he went mask off)
Autopilot turned out to be a scam
Relying on rental cars at work made me realize how much I hate touch screens.

So, I’m still driving my 1995 volvo 940. It will be replaced in march by a 2019 volvo xc90. I see the benefit in hybrid, but fuck tesla.

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It will be replaced in march by a 2019 volvo xc90.

But why, tho?

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Because I have four kids, so I need that big of a car to fit the entire household. If it wasn’t for that I would probably drive my jurassic era car for another decade.

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Because gas prices are too expensive, but EVs have way too many downsides for me to even consider one replacing ice vehicles

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The only thing stopping me is the price. ICE vehicles are close to normal price but hybrids and electrics are expensive. I wanted a Jeep 4xe but the markup on it far outweighs anything I save on convenience and gas. I don’t drive a lot though.

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Every morning I go by a entire lot filled with Jeep 4xe’s they can’t sell because they are too damned expensive. At least a couple hundred of them. Where I am as well even the base model they priced just right so it doesn’t get any government incentives or kicks backs for buying a EV or Hybrid which makes it one of the most expensive options in the category.

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I don’t have a car now but if I were to buy one I would give serious thought to an EV. The biggest problem I would face is that I live on the third floor of a brownstone in DC. I have a parking space but no way to plug it in at night.

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There will come a time when having a parking space without a charger will be unthinkable, and it’s coming soon in my view.

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Based on what? There has been no plan proposed by anyone to even start doing that. It’s not economical for commercial players to add that level of infrastructure.

Having an EV be an option is very much a privilege of having a secure SFDH.

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Not true. There are schemes in the works to put standardized public outlets on streetlamp posts and utility poles.

Then BYO charging cord and plug in.

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When EVs and plug in hybrids are a significant enough portion of the road fleet, people will not want to rent a park without one, and building owners will be forced to either install them, or have their parking building sit empty.

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You can charge off a normal wall outlet too, but those can also be hard to come by depending on your parking situation.

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There are schemes in the works to put standardized public outlets on streetlamp posts and utility poles. That will be nice when that’s working.

And if you have a dedicated parking spot it’s not a big stretch to install an outlet for it.

Some neighbors even have installed one on a post in front of their house while they park on the street.

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Not going to get much cheaper.

Toyota is correct. BEV, PHEV, and ICE will all be in our future until at a bare minimum charging it’s figured out. Prices need to come down as well.

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I don’t see how PHEVs will come down in cost of ownership at all, the fuel is extremely expensive and the cars aren’t cheap either. I don’t see it making sense at all.

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Batteries are expensive. And they ain’t getting cheaper. Manufacturing is already difficult with supply chain challenges. And we’re not even close to having everyone replace ICE.

Unless the new sodium batteries take off they are never going get to that point where BEV beats ICE everyone has been taking about four a few years.

By having a PHEV you reduce the dependence on rare earth materials while still giving everyone enough range to get around day to day. Go on a long trip? Range issues gone. The only real challenge is the upfront cost as well, but that doesn’t scale nearly as poorly. Prices will not rise as much if we push for greater market saturation of the PHEV category. The dependence on rare materials goes away making it easier for everyone to get one. A minor increase in maintenance is a small price for a vehicle that does everything they need better.

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Where are you getting ‘they aren’t getting cheaper’ from?

Hydrogen seems to be going in the wrong direction.

And there aren’t exactly a ton of fueling stations either.

And that’s compared to about 90k electric chargers in California.

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1 point

What is a bad press?

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2 points

”Make sure you spell my name right"

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7 points

Despite the negative press covfefe

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