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And eventually, Google will drop this feature for the Pixel as well. You can bank on it. An unlockable bootloader adds absolutely nothing of value to these companies because it slows down year to year buying from consumers and isn’t as profitable. It is from their perspective, counter productive to leave this feature enabled. So this isn’t surprising in the least, tbh.

Asus and Google used it to bait enthusiasts and as soon as they established a user base they were comfortable with, they will remove it. If the phones stop selling, they will simply stop making them. It’s that simple. You keeping your phone updated and feature packed for several years is not how they intend to allow the market to stray.

They want year to year sales above all else. An unlockable bootloader negates that for the majority of those who buy phones with that feature.

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Nah, the reputation they gain from us, the family tech guy, is worth more than the sales they lose from us specifically holding out longer than others. Plus they would lose the sales to us entirely when they stop.

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Already dropped on pixels sold by Verizon 😢

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This shit should be illegal.

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I miss ownership of things that I paid for.

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Yep, this is why I lost faith in these giant tech companies, my next phone will be Fairphone

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@electro1 Not sure if it’s still the same thing, but you can toggle the OEM Unlock option for Nokia G22 in the Developer Options menu, in the settings.

@Blaze

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Definitely not the same thing, flashing a custom ROM that was intended for a particular device into another, is a guaranteed way of breaking that device.

The OEM unlock option is worthy of something, yes, but useless if you can’t find a compatible ROM for that model

Also Nokia is owned by Microsoft, so my rule still stands, I lost faith and I just don’t trust them anymore

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@electro1@infosec.pub wrote:

flashing a custom ROM that was intended for a particular device into another, is a guaranteed way of breaking that device.

I wasn’t talking about that at all. I just refered specifically about unlocking the bootloader. I know you have to find a specific ROM for every specific device.

So weird I cannot find one though. I bought the G22 because it just seemed the most affordable alternative to a Fairphone (i.e. you can change the battery and the screen if something happens, or the fingerprint sensor/lock button etc.).

On XDA there is not even a section for it.

Also Nokia is owned by Microsoft

No, they’re not any longer. Since a few years already. They gave up their rights to the brand after their phone projects flopped.

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Nokia is now HMD Global. Not sure if they are better though…

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Sometimes that does nothing, like on the meta quest 3.

(Also, salut!)

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@ultra Salutare, salutare! 😀

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I’m waiting for a fairphone with a headphone jack and then hopping on that.

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I mean, there’s no lack of USB-C earphones these days, and adapters are tiny. I think for a brand like FairPhone the cost cutting of a feature almost no User cares for really makes sense.

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Yes, adapters are tiny but they stock out sooooo much. At least with corded earphones some of them come with 90 degree plugs which is so much better and lesser chance of something breaking.

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Oh, the headphone jack… using a phone without it is so counter productive and annoying, wait for the phone to fully charge, now wait for your headsets to charge too, I don’t know why we’re moving backwards 🙄

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I used to feel this way until I realized that a large percentage of phone users rarely used earbuds or headphones, including myself. Wired earbuds were a pain in the ass, nobody wanted to carry a coiled up cable in their pocket all day. But a little clamshell with a couple small buds in it fits pretty well into a jeans pocket. Once wireless earbuds hit the market, everyone started using them for a reason.

The only real argument for an analog headphone jack at this point is audio fidelity, and if you care about that you’re 1, not using your phone with a cheap DAC to do it and 2, your headphones probably use a 1/4" jack not a 3.5mm one. Wireless protocols are also catching up to analog as far as audio quality as well, and most people expect IP68 from a good phone these days, and you’re not getting that with a 3.5mm audio jack or removable battery.

The consumers who care about an audio jack on phones these days are a very vocal minority.

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That’s what these are for

They are also available in a few different shapes that may work better depending on device and user preferences and cost like 2-6 bucks on Ali. I use a different one with my steam deck that also has a little U adapter that 180s the plug direction and braces it against the back so it doesn’t torque off if I rotate the device in my hands.

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I know that this post will probably be downvoted to hell, but I’m pretty sure no phone will return the headphone jack, ever.

You’re either gonna have to quit using smartphones entirely or just have to give up on the headphone jack dream. It’s never going to happen again

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I’m waiting for one with a good camera.

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One of the many reasons I stick with Pixels. Best security combined with friendliest 3rd party OS support.

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I really wanted a zenfone 10 but purposefully avoided it hearing about the removal of the unlock tool. This is very unfortunate they are going this direction and doesn’t even seem like they have a good reason or understand how this actively hurts users.

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