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Having a drink before going to sleep at 9 Is better than laying awake until 2 am tossing and turning for 3 hours and getting up at 5.

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Its literally a tough decision. I remember sleeping a lot better when I was still drinking alcohol, especially one or two beers to dinner.

Due to personal circumstances, my nervous system is on constant alert and years of training did get it down a bit but one bad experience makes it spike 10x.

I decided to quit because it was becoming very regular. My sleep quality has gotten a lot better since the beginning but also its been 5-6 yrs since I quit. Regular exercise and meditation did the trick.

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Due to personal circumstances, my nervous system is on constant alert and years of training did get it down a bit but one bad experience makes it spike 10x.

Same. Just started a new job too and my shit has been going nuts. I’m not even struggling with anything my body is just freaking out for no reason. I try not to rely on alcohol to deal with it but when it’s really bad sometimes that’s the only thing that works and let’s me level out. I will probably quit for a while after I get through the new job nerves though because I’m definitely drinking too much the last couple weeks.

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I‘d suggest a „pause“. Just see how long you can make it. It takes the „I can never do x again“ pressure away and makes it a lot easier to keep off something. Did the same with smoking.

Have you tried yoga/meditation? I make breathing exercises if stuff gets rough. Either awake or when I want to fall asleep. I count breaths in and out. When I come to 100 I start over. My brain calms down at repetitive stuff and i get tired.

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Loads of anti-science types in this community.

Just take it for what it’s worth instead of offering your reason of why the study can’t possibly be of any use to anyone.

OH MAN am I looking forward to the day I quit social media for good.

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I’m with ya.

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So can looking at screens. And temperature. And eating spicy food. And…

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The author of the article took bit of liberty with a “even a small amount”. 0.08 BAC is around 2-3 drinks for most people depending on sex and weight. It’s also legally drunk in most places.

So what the study is slowing us yet more proof why overuse of alcohol is detrimental to a person’s health. The only thing interesting in this study is it shows possible evidence of the mechanism that causes the harm.

Studies have consistently shown that anything above 1-2 drinks daily or 0.04-0.06 BAC is bad for your health. As with any other drug, the correct dosage is key.

Now why the study authors decided not to include a 0.04 BAC level control in their study is beyond me. The lower dose repeatedly shows benefits in large scale population studies.

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Can you expand on the “lower dose benefits”? I assumed that the benefits of wine were related to antioxidants in certain drinks rather than the alcohol itself.

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They originally theorized it was the antioxidants 30+ years ago. However more recent papers have shown that it’s the alcohol itself that has the benefits, at the right dosage.

https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jacc.2007.04.089

Here is one of the better writups I have found on the subject.

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Yeah going to sleep drunk is stupid. If you have one drink while making dinner, one with dinner and one after dinner, and then go to sleep 2+ hours later, almost entirely sober, then this study has no bearing on that.

For me, even if I do binge drink a little later than is prudent, I’ll stay up a bit until I start sobering up. And I definitely feel way better than when I go to bed when my body is still processing a stomach fill of alcohol.

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For me, if I’m 100% sober, I sleep fine. If I have 5 or 6 beers or white wine only, no more and no less, I sleep great. If I have 1-4 drinks, 6 or more, or red wine/liquor, I sleep like absolute shit. This only really counts if I have them right up until I go to bed. If I have my drinks earlier in the day and nothing from say suppertime onward, I usually sleep fine.

However, if I drink more than a couple days in a row, I sleep like shit regardless of how much I have and it takes about 4 days of no alcohol until I sleep well again. As a result, I really only drink on Friday and Saturday nights, with some exceptions for long weekends and vacations, which are offset by taking dry months every now and then.

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