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Just as subservience breeds subjugation, so choosing between differing forms of exploitation can only result in continued exploitation. Being asked to choose between capitalism and fascism does not change the direction we are travelling in, it only marginally changes the route we are taking to get there.

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subservience breeds subjugation

I like that phrasing, goes well with ‘civility breeds cowardice’.

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Can I ask where that quote is from? Or is it your own?

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My own, used often in the same context you use yours.

Civility breeds cowardice, when will people learn that their civility has been abused by those with hands on their throats and their wallets.

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Their own party treats them with more disdain than their supposed “opposition party.”

AOC and the other actual left-wing minority making waves in a sea of right-wing neoliberals and righter-wing fascists is amazing. They can’t win, the game is fully rigged and the institutions are fully captured by monied interests with political bribery legalized, but it’s like watching Cap get up to face Thanos’ army alone, it’s inspiring.

Too bad no one, including most Americans, are on their left.

Because were too far into the sunk cost fallacy to reject “free market” rigged crony capitalism.

“We can’t re-examine our core economic beliefs! We already gave the owners all the money, and they promised for half a century to whip their dicks out and urinate golden showers of prosperity on all of us!.. any day now…”

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The article makes an argument exactly against this mentality.

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Did you read the article?

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I read the article, and I agree with Freddie deBoer. This is just liberal apologetics. This is just the same arguments of things are getting better, just wait, blah, blah, blah. I’m old. It’s tired. Give me healthcare and change my mind.

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So until we get single payer healthcare, you won’t be happy with any other policy wins and you’d rather burn all your political capital fighting us instead of uniting against the literal fascists?

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She’s the Obama of millennials, and will probably achieve the same political success. (Once the boomers preventing her ascension all die off.)

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It’s not the generation, it’s capitalism.

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👍

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AOC is just another fucking populist. I do not understand how people fall for this shit over and over and over again.

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oh my god this is rhe dumbest thought ever. i hear this from “libertarian”(see:morons) side of America all the time and i just have to ask… how the fuck do you come to this conclusion??

because she works to get voters? her policy goals and platform are clear, she represents extremely vocal voting blocks of liberals.

how is any of that a populist?? because she’s trying to get voters? you don’t know what a populist is

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Anyone under 40 in American politics is an automatic beloved novelty.

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Populist:

a person, especially a politician, who strives to appeal to ordinary people who feel that their concerns are disregarded by established elite groups. “he ran as a populist on an anticorruption platform”

I one hundred percent agree that AOC is a politician who strives to appeal to ordinary people who feel that their concerns are disregarded by established elite groups.

The critical difference between AOC and all of the right wing populists, is that she is concerned about people, and the preservation and expansion of human rights.

Right wing populists fire up their base by singling out minorities, and others that wield little to no social or political currency, and picking on them. Besides being morally repugnant at face value, the rhetoric and actual right wing policy never deliver tangible quality of life improvements to their base.

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Isn’t that just the progressive left? As far as I know we don’t worship figureheads like the fascist right with their orange demigod.

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Nope, worship people claiming being other sex and making people to call them by a gender they are not. :)

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You seem to be confused.

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America’s “left” is pretty middle of the road if you compare the US to other first world nations.

Things like free affordable / free university education, universal healthcare, consumer protection, and decent unemployment insurance are not controversial elsewhere. But in the US the right wing claims these boring ass ideas, that the rest of the modern world has embraced, are radical.

If left wing idea were hot sauces, the GOP would think mayo was the Last Dab on Hot Ones.

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You can still respect and admire a figurehead without worshipping them. The difference is whether you bend definitions and rules to make exceptions of them when they deviate from expectations.

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I mean, the article linked is an AOC apologist quite literally bending “definitions and rules to make exceptions” for her after another columnist said she was “just a regular old Democrat now.”

Branding the progressive left the “AOC Left” is also problematic and indicative of some hero worship on the author’s part.

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Naming a movement after a figurehead is not worship, it’s just descriptive.

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