A Mississippi man accused of destroying a statue of a pagan idol at Iowa’s state Capitol is now being charged with a hate crime.

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…If the government is going to permit one ideology to put up religious iconography on their grounds, then they must include the other religions stop and take those down.

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At the moment, SCOTUS treats no belief as a separate religion. In our life times we are going to have to aim for the more achievable “all religions matter”.

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SCOTUS gets something wrong, what a shocker. You set your goals for how much progress you want to see in a lifetime and I’ll set mine.

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For reference, this is what it looks like for me (desktop firefox):

So, looks fine to me formatting-wise. I read the intent to be that (1) they’re quoting you, and (2) they’re conveying a government building should not be a place for religious iconography, at all.

I’d be happier if there would be no religious presence in government buildings too, but alas, the SC has ruled for what we’ve got. So I suppose it’s nice at least that we’ve got TST to help ensure our governments aren’t playing favorites

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…If the government is going to permit one ideology to put up religious iconography on their grounds, then they must…

…stop and take those down.


Out of curiosity, does the earlier post’s strikethrough for the part I’ve now removed show up for you? I’ve heard that some apps don’t handle all of the formatting options particularly well.

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FWIW, I’m reading this thread in a Firefox browser on a PC and only the bolding works for me. I see the double-tildes at either end of what should be struck out text.

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I’d put it on par with trespassing into a church and breaking the crosses. It’s destruction of other people’s shit because of the religion it represents but with no additional implications

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Christians demand that acceptance while refusing it (literally to the point of violence) to anyone else.

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The story of the last 2000 years.

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Ain’t it a bitch when OTHERS use the right you thought only you’d be able to use? What a dumbass.

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Many Christians probably believe that these laws were made for everyone except them. If you go to more conservative sites discussing the matter, they would probably be asking why people aren’t charged for hate crimes against Christians. It’s part of their persecution complex.

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“Charged with a hate crime for what?”

“For saying Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas! Starbucks changed to just a red cup so that’s a hate crime too! Schools are trying to stop coaches from making kids on their teams pray! And trans people exist! Hate crimes!!”

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If the ghouls completely take over it will be only them who use these laws

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she has accused the Satanic Temple of making filings that “are only meant to evoke strong emotions and incite others.”

Uh yeah, it isn’t a secret or anything.

What’s next? Is she going to say “I don’t think they actually believe in Baphomet either!”

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“How dare you sue me for the crimes you passively goaded me into committing in your attempt to prove the value of the law”

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As a Satanist myself, I honestly think that would/should be their lawyers case.

We are atheists and the argument that we’re not really a religion is something conservative courts might believe.

I haven’t looked into any filings for religious exemption/status, etc so I’m not sure how we’ve made our case in the past. I think we should be prepared to advocate that our mutual belief in the seven tenets is our religion.

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Here in Germany religions and world-views have equal status, and if Baphomet is a symbol of your specific brand of atheism and its values then desecrating it is, well, desecration: An insult of those values.

Zen folks also aren’t religious in the western understanding, the whole distinction is a western construct, yet I don’t doubt burning down a Zen temple would be considered a hate crime even by Christians.

From what I understand the legal situation in the US is actually similar. When people started the Sudburry school they had a look at the options and went straight-ahead for making it a denominational school as it offered the best conditions and flexibility. They specifically created a humanist creed just for that founding.

Push come to shove, lessons to learn? More architecture, more fancy robes and chants.

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That’s really interesting that religions and world-views are given equal credence. Excuse my ignorance, but are they covered under the same word? Or what would the translations be?

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Triggered into entering the felon list by some pool noodles and some lights 😂

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And the Cristian wack jobs are in full force donating to his legal defense. Already at 116.000 usd, with completely normal and not at all fanatic comments, like “_ May God punish the foul souls bringing charges against you! There is a higher law than man made law, and you are upon that law. God bless you and keep you._”. Abhorrent behavior…

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God damn, I wish I didn’t have morals and a conscience… With my knowledge of religion and the scriptures I could be making BANK milking the gullible.

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This is my same struggle every day having been raised in a preacher’s home.

Reading the Bible is what turned me into an atheist

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Loving the bible makes you christian.

reading the bible makes you athiest.

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Reading the Bible is what turned me into an atheist

Same.

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Psalms 137:9 is my favorite verse.

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FYI: Israelites are a branch of Canaanites, El is a Canaanitic god, and The Exodus lacks evidence from ever happening.

That was absolutely wild to learn as ex-Christian. Also, the social hole you fall into as you leave Christianity is pretty terrifying, but you’ll eventually learn to deal with it.

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Reading the Bible is what turned me into an atheist

Same. And the ultimate irony is that the values I used to determine that the Bible is a fucked up book that I want nothing to do with, are the same values that my uber-Christian parents instilled in me, and then lost at some point along the way.

YOU MADE ME LIKE THIS

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Yep. I have had these same thoughts. Start a business. Any business. Slap “Christian” in the name. Profit.

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I really liked the one where somebody was prepared to buy people’s worldly goods and look after them in the event of the rapture.

It’s a great scam because it literally cannot go wrong. If it turns out they were right and the rapture happens you still don’t have to deal with all the junk and otherwise you can sell it back to them for a profit.

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Guru

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Peter 2:13-17

Be subject for the Lord’s sake to every human institution, whether it be to the emperor as supreme, or to governors as sent by him to punish those who do evil and to praise those who do good. For this is the will of God, that by doing good you should put to silence the ignorance of foolish people. Live as people who are free, not using your freedom as a cover-up for evil, but living as servants of God. Honor everyone. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the emperor.

Sooo yeah “God is a higher authority you need not heed” is more like government is the official middle management. Obey the management.

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They can’t even write a coherent sentence. “You are upon that law”? The fuck?

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Is 116.00 supposed to be like 116,000? Must have shot up since the article was published then?

Cassidy is scheduled to be arraigned Feb. 15. He has raised more than $84,000 for his defense from nearly 2,000 supporters, according to the fundraising site GiveSendGo.

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French people switch . and , for whatever reason.

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Lots of the world does. It’s ok as long as we all put the correct number of digits after the period or comma.

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In parts of (most of?) Europe they use commas where we in the US use decimals in numbers.

https://www.smartick.com/blog/other-contents/curiosities/decimal-separators/

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