Visits to music piracy websites went up more than 13 percent last year, a new report says. The majority of those visits were to sites that allow users to download the audio from YouTube URLs.

120 points

I never stopped but i started buying music too from small artists

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I feel like Bandcamp’s biggest fans are prolific pirates with a conscience who just want to see their favorite artists actually get paid.

EDIT: Don’t forget it’s Bandcamp Friday today.

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But we’ll still need a proper place to support our favorite creators (where the artists actually receive some of the money). I wonder where people will migrate next.

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2 points

The economics with the artists haven’t changed. Until they do I’ll still use them to pay artists a living wage.

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37 points

That’s super based. Pirate whoever’s stuff you want, but small artists usually depend on that income.

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18 points

I listen to hundreds of small artists. I can’t buy every singles albums they have.

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14 points

You don’t have to. Buy the ones you think are worth it, attend shows and maybe buy merch. Like we used to do before leechify

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11 points

Small artists depend on their income from their 9 to 5 jobs. The music is a bonus

Source - been there

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5 points

I never stopped either, but i buy vinyl…slowed down since my turntable only spins at 33.3 in special occasions when the spirits shine upon it.

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2 points

Belt driven? May need new belt.

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1 point

Its a technics DD. I think its a mk 2 or 3 model. When its off its consistently off. Like it still locks into a speed its just the wrong speed.

I think its an electrical issue and im too afraid to take it apart while it still works sometimes. I probably couldnt fix anyway

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3 points

I have never pirated music more in my life as I do now.

I have never purchased as much music as I do now.

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117 points

Downloading YouTube isn’t piracy lol it’s time shifting.

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25 points

TiVo has entered the chat.

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6 points

What’s that?

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27 points

TiVo was an early digital video recorder that dominated the market for a while. Broadcasters brought lawsuits against the company saying the recording of videos was violating copyright laws, and advertisers hated it because you could skip commercials. TiVo argued in court that they weren’t pirating, but just time shifting the content. Similar arguments were used for people who ripped rented dvds and so on.

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24 points

Mfw the kids don’t know about TiVo

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2 points

Oh god, I’m old…

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79 points

The majority of those visits were to sites that allow users to download the audio from YouTube URLs.

This is not piracy. We’ve always been allowed to record e.g. radio and TV for personal use.

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I think the RIAA has a different view on that. Huge push backs against recordable cassettes and VHS tapes when they were introduced.

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4 points

They def would’ve done radio drm if possible

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1 point

I could be wrong but didn’t a cut from blank tapes go to the industry tp ‘make up for the losses’?

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2 points

The Netherlands had a tax on blank CDs to “compensate” authors, essentially legalizing piracy (until the EU changed the rules).

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2 points

My dad always got a huge kick out of VHSing NFL games to watch later lol.

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73 points

I WISH I COULD HEAR YA OVER THESE HERE BANGING TUNES! 🏴‍☠️

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18 points

But are they lossless 96kHz+? Only reason I use qobuz.

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16 points

Did I misread 320bps mp3?

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Hopefully it’s Kbps, otherwise…

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9 points

Flac and opus on soulseek?

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3 points

Tidal? You can even download all your music in lossless flac format

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4 points

Can’t play music without the tidal client I think

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Honestly the most complete source of high res music is private trackers like redacted. You can download all the stuff from qobuz and bandcamp, every CD rip you can think of in bit perfect quality of and even very good vinyl rips. You basically can download any version ever released from any album.

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51 points

I know this does not make me look good - but I am a YouTube Premium subscriber. I had Spotify, but they jacked up their family plan rate, and it was only a few bucks cheaper than Premium, then I got the ad-free (without adblockers). I mostly did it to help my kids avoid the toxic ads that are littered into the kid content. The main reason I stick with some of this stuff is for the discovery. Pandora was great, Spotify is ok.

Regardless - the smart playlists, and AI stuff on YouTube music is AWFUL. I cannot put into words how bad it is. Spotify got it right about 1/4-1/2 of the time. YouTube, maybe 1/100. Constantly recommending a country, which I cannot stand. When it isn’t doing country, it recommends hard rock/metal which I also do not listen to. I feel like I need a new way to find music, then I could sever ties with all these trashy subscriptions.

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I have started buying vinyl with the digital downloads when I find a great album. I feel better doing it this way. Most of my music is not super big name artists.

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Not been my experience. Yt music playlists are really good for me and I’ve discovered a lot of new music through it.

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That surprises me, but I suppose it had to work for some listeners or they wouldn’t have gotten it past testing. I have even tried clearing my listen history and starting over - still comes up with country and (going to clarify) ‘metal’ . I like rock and alternative and some forms of pop, as well as a bit of hip hop. cannot fathom why it suggests what it does.

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Do you ever thumb down anything, or do you just skip the stuff you don’t like?

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I just listen to playlists that people make or youtube videos of song genres or artists that I like.

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Soulseek if you don’t mind data hoarding.

I have yt premium for the same reason. Toddlers have little patience for ads on their Kindle fire, and they get upset when they click one to buy a luxury watch and can’t figure out how to get back to cocomelon.

I actually like the service and feel it’s fairly priced. So I don’t mind paying for it. I stream yt music all day at work.

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I still havent found anything can match the experience of finding music from online discussions or list hopping on RYM.

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3 points

Last fm users with similar taste can be a gold mine

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3 points

What is rym?

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Same boat here. My God it’s unbearable how bad YouTube premium is.

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I get good value out of it…

…That being said, I curate my own feed heavily, and still have to use a ton of add-ons to keep from going insane - fuck your shorts YouTube.

It is admittedly terrible.

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