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An easy way to share my screen

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How?? There are so many tools for that now, I can even do it in teams

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My work uses slack. The screenshare doesn’t work with Wayland. Steam link/remote play doesn’t work with a Wayland host (at least it hasn’t every time i have tried it). For my gaming pc i only switch to X when i want to use the steam link and use Wayland the other 99.99% of the time because in general it is better. For work i exclusively run X. I started with Wayland, but then there were several occasions where i had to logout then login again switching to X just so i could share my screen which was a massive pain. I love Wayland, but i can totally understand people not wanting to switch until the tools they are used to (or are required to use) work properly under Wayland.

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XWaylandVideoBridge should work for slack.

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1 point

OBS?

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I couldn’t get OBS working on OpenSuse with Wayland. Works on x11.

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Mine works okay on Debian 12 plasma. It was a little work to get it to not require root. The flat pack worked out of the box but then plugins became an issue so I went back and screwed with permissions till I got it working.

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Huh, works flawlessly for me on NixOS. Have you made sure that you’re using Pipewire and have the correct xdg-desktop-portal?

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Good news: Discord just updated their Electron version.

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1 point

Wait what, really? Has hell actually frozen over now?!

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This debate is so fucking stupid. X. Is. Dead.

Install Wayland, file bug reports, help everyone move into the future.

X is dead

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Looks like I’m quitting my job because Wayland is the future asshat. How about I just run both X and Wayland on my computer, file bug reports on what doesn’t work with Wayland, and continue to use X until they fix it or you pull your head out of your own ass? Whichever comes first.

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Touch a nerve? How about you chill the fuck out.

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Lol. Last time I checked you were the one shouting into the abyss that X is dead. Did the OP’s meme get under your skin so bad you had to go on a caps lock tirade about how sick you were of hearing this argument and X is dead, etc?

If your criticism had added even one iota of thought to the conversation backing up your opinion, I would have just scrolled on by. There is a plethora of easily accessible data for you to choose from to back up your argument. You could have cherry picked ANY argument you wanted about why Wayland is the future from google and just posted that instead? That seriously would have shown more respect to the people who want to have an honest discussion on the topic.

But no, instead you took the time to basically call everyone who took the time to post here stupid rather than just, y’know, move the fuck on? So yeah, I took some time out of my day to call you out for what you are, an asshat.

Now, are you gonna chill the fuck out, take your ball, and go home? Or do you have some actually constructive criticism to contribute to the conversation? Cuz seems to me outside of throwing another tantrum, those are your only two options.

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7 points

No.

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Make me.

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Would be a shame if your distro were to stop shipping X11…

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It’s Linux. If they switch before all my use cases are working as good as or better than X, I’ll just hop to the inevitable fork.

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Most people want to do things not file bug reports and wait months for them to be addressed. X gets security updates as needed and will get such for literally years. X is dead like rock not dead like disco.

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Bro, I do file bug reports and even fix things from time to time, Wayland is so broken for me I can’t work. Also, when bug reports are met with “it’s nvidia’s fault” and hostility towards the submitter, that further turns me off from participating.

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Unfortunately I just want to be able to work though and Wayland keeps hanging and crashing without producing any relevant logging, despite the fact I’m working on an AMD iGPU.

In the end Wayland and X are tools, if a tool doesn’t fit the job it gets replaced. I don’t care X is dead, at least it works for me. Probably not the most popular thing to tell around here, but it’s what it is.

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I don’t like the framing in this meme. “Wayland doesn’t run on Nvidia” implies that it’s a Wayland problem, but it’s actually Nvidia that fails to develop a modern, working driver.

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That still sounds like a Wayland problem, just not one that they have control of

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It is an Nvidia problem. And we need to insist on Nvidia being the problem until they give in. Their lack of wanting to take responsibility for distributing graphics cards on the market by not developing working drivers and not even letting the community fix it by open sourcing their driver is not something we should tolerate anymore. They pissed people enough at this point over the years, with their lack of participation in an driver problem-free environment on Linux, so they should and they will take the blame.

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Until they give in what? What in your fantasies does the open source community of randos have over Nvidia again? Will you withhold your 0.1% of their profits after cost of develoment is considered? If you had paid even the slightest attention you would note the progress in open source drivers supporting newer hardware.

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Nvidia has a closed source driver. Wayland tries to support it but Nvidia keeps changing how the driver works every week. So it’s impossible to deliver quality with Nvidia shit.

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For sure, but unfortunately, that’s still a Wayland problem.

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Why are you lying? Large software projects change slowly and stuff like GPU drivers work according to standards and interfaces. The bugs experienced aren’t even on the open source software side. The bugs in the general case are largely in the nvidia side and being fixed on that side albeit not briskly.

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Users don’t care whose problem it is. They can trivially log out and log in and select X changing GPU implies throwing away hundreds or thousands of dollars of hardware. Over 80% of discrete GPUs are Nvidia hardware.

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My Desktop runs wayland on nvidia… so?!

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I have a weird setup, which is my fault I guess, but it results in me having two keyboards with different languages. And I frequently switch between them in my workflow, so it can be super annoying to manually switch the language every time.

On X I use a combination of two tools to automatically set the language per keyboard, which works even when hotplugging.

On wayland I found no alternative so far, but if you have any ideas, please let me know.

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I don’t know about other compositors, but on Hyprland and Sway you can configure things per device (in the config file). I’d give an example here but I’m on my phone right now.

I have a laptop and a desktop with slightly different keyboard layouts, and both machines share the same config file.

Not sure why you have a tool to “set the language”, what would happen if you tried to use both keyboards at once?

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I honestly don’t recall the details and can’t check right now. It’s been working like that for years.

I remember the main issues I was having were around yubikey, my usb hub which can switch between two pc’s and hotplugging. So I had to use a second tool which did something on any device plugin.

I think using both keyboards at once worked fine. I didn’t mean system keyboard language.

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Not a real solution, but if you were set on using Wayland you could get a qmk keyboard and change the layout in firmware

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