50 points

Since 1980, five storms have hit the hypothetical Cat 6 threshold of 192 mph….None on record before then.

permalink
report
reply
24 points

I wonder how much of that is due to not having the ability to measure the speeds, vs anything to do with global warming, (not saying I don’t believe in global warming and our role in it) but it’s similar to how some people think mental issues like ADHD or Autism and even things like gender dysphoria are on the rise, when in reality a lot of it is just better methodology and tracking of diagnosis.

permalink
report
parent
reply
7 points

Most speed calculations are made by the analysis of pressure at the storm’s core. Hurricane hunters measure that.

permalink
report
parent
reply
8 points
*

You make a fair point, but even assuming this level of hurricane was occurring previously, at least we can now monitor their frequency moving forward.

Edit: I just read the article, and it indicates all such recorded hurricanes were within the last decade

permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points

Meanwhile, Super Typhoon Tip (1979, with 190 mph sustained winds) be like:

permalink
report
parent
reply
15 points

I’m curious what the guidelines would be as a preparation for the potential of a new category. Like leave the area? I know changing how we do things now on a global scale should help, but in case and due to cynicism, it might not help. But what should people do for the seemingly inevitable storms?

permalink
report
reply
9 points

The guideline is: Kiss your butt Goodbye

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

Excellent point.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-1 points

Seriously though…the old saying “Run from water, hide from wind” still applies. At that strength, a Cat 6 is like a 20+ mile wide tornado. So, a lot of hiding if you’re anywhere near. And if you’re in the direct path there is little you can do.

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

It kind of triggers the mind with new state input. So more psychological. But it’s understandable, as a new category can encompass not just wind speed, but whater dropped, storm surge, and other factors that are amplified in Cat5 in a higher carbon atmosphere.

permalink
report
parent
reply
22 points

Also have to consider Cat5e which, due to its higher number of twists per inch, ends up being capable of much higher speeds without crosstalk.

permalink
report
parent
reply
7 points
*

Honestly you should be moving to Cat6 hurricanes and deprecating your Cat5e, since 2.5 gigabit Ethernet wind speed is becoming a consumer-grade thing.

permalink
report
parent
reply
34 points

Physical fitness helps. I’m just as guilty as many of my fellow Americans when it comes to letting the numbers on my bathroom scale creep up over the years so won’t be sitting here preaching routines and stuff. Some stretching and general work on flexibility should go a long way though.

Everyone’s starting point will be different but with some persistence and dedication to a steady routine, results will start showing before you know it. Once the storm hits, you’ll be much more capable of bending over to kiss your ass goodbye.

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points

Lol I can’t tell if this is a joke or not but either way super funny.

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points

Mostly a joke with some elements of truth. If you’re getting turbofucked by nature’s fury, being able to move on foot for long distances when needed puts you in a better position than someone who is less able. From a response resource point of view, people who can escape the immediate danger on foot free up vehicles and rescue personnel for others with mobility issues.

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

Wroooong. Become a climate denier. That way when the storm hits you can just pull your head out of your ass to kiss it goodbye.

permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points
*

Your question gets to the heart of why it’s not important to add another category. Once you get a truly monster storm, a lot more factors come into play as to how dangerous it is than just wind speed. There’s not a single band aid solution.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

Possibly? Our building techniques have improved since the scale was originally finalized so it may make sense to have a category for our truly hardened structures.

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

It’s why they stopped at 5. Everything was gone anyway when it hits. In a category six it’s even more gone so it didn’t make them much sense.

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

North east coast of Australia gets hit with category 5 cyclones every 5 to 10 years or so, there are plenty of buildings that survive that.

Parents copped the brunt of Cyclone Yasi with 180 mph gusts, only damage to their house was they lost a section of guttering, it was peeled off never to be seen again.

Building standards there are rigorous. They built their house themselves (in a rural area, 180 acre farms), its engineering design was required to withstand wind loadings of at least 70m/s (160mph) .

It is a steel-framed, single story kit home, on a steel piling foundation about 3 feet off the ground. The local building inspector also told them to put long threaded rods from the roofing trusses to the subfloor and the foundations while building it and tension them up, they eventually put in 36. This effectively ties the roof to the foundation and stops it peeling off, once your roof comes off the rest of the house usually folds up like an open cardboard box.

Apart from losing the section of guttering, there was no other damage to the house. They boarded up the larger glass sliding doors and were somewhat alarmed at the amount of flex on the glass as the cyclone passed, but they held up ok. They didn’t get power back for two weeks , which was the worst of it for them as it’s very humid afterwards, they had a generator and ran it in the evening to power the aircon in their bedroom each night until it ran out of fuel.

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

Well categories 4 and 5 already recommend evacuation for everyone in the path. There isn’t a viable response more extreme than that we’re capable of. Perhaps evacuate sooner? But we have a lot of trouble predicting hurricane movements, especially as they approach land.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

Category 6 - Don’t expect to come back to anything. Whatever you take with you is all you’ll ever have.

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points

Floridian here. Anything over a cat3 heading your way is cause to GTFO immediately or seek shelter in an evacuation shelter (usually sturdy public buildings like schools). You can usually weather the storm if it’s cat 1 or 2 and you’re well prepared and don’t live in a flood zone(even then there’s room for exercising your discretion). same goes for 3 but at that point I’m tracking the storms path to see if we’re gonna get a direct hit or not. If it’s on the low end of 3 and we’re only getting the outer bands I’ll stick it out. If it’s looking like a direct hit I’ll leave. Never been hit by a cat 4 or 5 and have no intention of being around when they come knocking. A cat 6 would be “if you’re still around you’re a fucking idiot” level of storm.

I did stick around for irma or Michael a few years back but only because by the time they were near me they were going to be significantly weaker than when they made landfall

permalink
report
parent
reply
67 points

Sharkicanes?

permalink
report
reply
30 points

Worse. Cocaine Sharkicanes.

permalink
report
parent
reply
9 points

You’re thinking too small: Polar Cocaine Sharkicanes

permalink
report
parent
reply
7 points

El Polar Cocaine Sharkicane

permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points

With frickin’ laser beams attached to their heads.

permalink
report
parent
reply
11 points

When they occur in Asia, they’re called Sharkoons.

permalink
report
parent
reply
0 points

Bunnycanes.

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

We did it Humanity!

permalink
report
reply
-6 points

Good news for those who want their storms like their networking cables.

permalink
report
reply

World News

!world@lemmy.world

Create post

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

  • Rule 1: posts have the following requirements:

    • Post news articles only
    • Video links are NOT articles and will be removed.
    • Title must match the article headline
    • Not United States Internal News
    • Recent (Past 30 Days)
    • Screenshots/links to other social media sites (Twitter/X/Facebook/Youtube/reddit, etc.) are explicitly forbidden, as are link shorteners.
  • Rule 2: Do not copy the entire article into your post. The key points in 1-2 paragraphs is allowed (even encouraged!), but large segments of articles posted in the body will result in the post being removed. If you have to stop and think “Is this fair use?”, it probably isn’t. Archive links, especially the ones created on link submission, are absolutely allowed but those that avoid paywalls are not.

  • Rule 3: Opinions articles, or Articles based on misinformation/propaganda may be removed. Sources that have a Low or Very Low factual reporting rating or MBFC Credibility Rating may be removed.

  • Rule 4: Posts or comments that are homophobic, transphobic, racist, sexist, anti-religious, or ableist will be removed. “Ironic” prejudice is just prejudiced.

  • Posts and comments must abide by the lemmy.world terms of service UPDATED AS OF 10/19

  • Rule 5: Keep it civil. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.

  • Rule 6: Memes, spam, other low effort posting, reposts, misinformation, advocating violence, off-topic, trolling, offensive, regarding the moderators or meta in content may be removed at any time.

  • Rule 7: We didn’t USED to need a rule about how many posts one could make in a day, then someone posted NINETEEN articles in a single day. Not comments, FULL ARTICLES. If you’re posting more than say, 10 or so, consider going outside and touching grass. We reserve the right to limit over-posting so a single user does not dominate the front page.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News !news@lemmy.world

Politics !politics@lemmy.world

World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

Community stats

  • 12K

    Monthly active users

  • 16K

    Posts

  • 275K

    Comments