We currently have Roku’s on our tvs to connect to streaming services and servers but they are infested with advertisements.
Some other comments mentioned Walmart’s $20 ONN 4k boxes, but these are android and I don’t have the time or knowledge/patience to go through the flashing process on one of those; if there is even a working custom ROM.
Basically we just want a functioning (libre) streaming box. The closest I could find was OSMC’s Vero V (just released a few months ago), although it’s a little pricey at $160 usd. Are there any other options out there or does anyone have any experience with the Vero V?
I would just use a tiny PC and connect it to the Internet, then use Linux and pirating services to build a library of stuff. Works well for me.
I would 100% do this (minus the pirating part) if there was a way to get a tv style remote for the box. That’s the biggest obstacle for me because I’ve never been able to find a PC/tv remote and non technical users will be using the TV.
Look for air mouse. It’s basically a wiimote. Uses gyroscope to pretend to be a pointer device. You’ll need that because you’re basically going to need to use a web browser if you want to go down this path.
It’s not a nice experience but all the nice experiences you won’t like.
I mean the Vero V seems to be a nice polished experience. It’s just a lot of work to setup a linux box and get it to work, the latter being the hard part. The wiimote and the flirc have some comments in reviews about being poor experiences, and I just want it to be on par with the Roku or it’ll wind up in the trash heap. I don’t mind paying a little bit extra for a finished solution, and it seems like a plus that the Vero is a community/libre project.
For maximum compatibility with all services you are limited in your choices due to DRM licence requirements.
You can mostly decrapify android based boxes via ADB to strip out much of the bloat, strip most of the telemetry entirely then block the rest in your firewall, and replace the launcher with a super barebones one like Flauncher but it will never be 100% perfect.
If you must be in full control of what is on the device and what it is doing, a small, low powered miniPC (intel n100 is a good chip for basic AV for example, 4k 10bit with perfect H265 and AV1 decoding) and use the operating system of your choice, but you are then limited in what you can stream via browser or third party apps, often in nowhere near full quality, again this is due to licencing and drm.
The best option is to avoid streaming services altogether and download your own content, then use an offline player like kodi or a server/client solution like Jellyfin (a free and open alternative to plex, with most of the base features well implemented) to play it.
I have an Nvidia Shield running LineageOS.
The setup process wasn’t too bad, but the Shield might be more money than you want to spend.
I use it for Netflix and Plex, as well as Spotify, with no problems. It tells me that Netflix is not optimised for the device, but plays fine. I’ve heard that Netflix may limit it to 720p, but the quality is as good as you can expect from Netflix anyway.
Plex works perfectly, can stream 4k from my media server with no issues. I will eventually transition to Jellyfin, once I convince the 4 other households that have access to my Plex library to sort themselves out.
No drawbacks for my use case, but there are a few quirks.
Some apps that I’ve dabbled with might show vertically, but most of the Android TV compatible apps were fine.
Some apps seem to expect a touchscreen input, and don’t really show what’s highlighted or selected very well, so navigating with just a TV style remote control can be tricky. I have a mouse and keyboard that I also use, definitely the easiest option.
Lastly, the Shield is a pretty powerful device, so I always kinda feel like I’m not using it to its fullest potential. I haven’t really tried any gaming with it, I don’t use it as a media server or anything, just a simple stream box. That’s less of a quirk with the device itself, and more an issue with me feeling like I should be putting it to better use.
Happy to answer any other questions you may have!
@const_void@lemmy.ml suggested that HW accelerated video decode doesn’t work, is that the case?
Does GPU accel in general (OGL and vulkan) work?
Does Widevine DRM work?
Highly specific long-shot question but is the Shield TV’s GPU fast enough for https://github.com/bloc97/Anime4K/?
Kodi via LibreElec on a RaspberryPi in a Flirc case with the Flirc remote.
Streaming pirated content used to bother me but now I see it as these streaming companies steal my data, give me ads after I pay for the service, and if I “purchase” something it’s not actually mine, not DRM free, and they have the tendency to remove that so called purchased content due to licensing issues.
If you want things to just work: Chromecast with Android TV, plus PiHole or Adguard to pull out of all the telemetry and advertising (except maybe Amazon Prime’s new stuff).
Also, Google at least gives you the possibility to pull out of the personalized stuff and doesn’t work much with 3rd party advertiser’s. And those they work with are being taken care of with PiHole and Adguard.
I have that setup. The entire front page of Chromecast is baked-in advertising with a small row of your apps and pihole with a good list still doesn’t get rid of them, sadly.
Chromecast is built for and of ads. That being said, it definitely does “just work”. Jellyfin + Chromecast is a great streaming experience. I don’t have to deal with skipping and stuttering like on the android app.
