Anon watches youtube in 2024

I still don’t understand the appeal of YouTube shorts… It feels like the rational behind it is “hey, I can watch 10 meaningless shorts in the same amount of time it would take to watch one video that has an actual point”. I guess that’s why I’ve never gotten in to tiktok either lol

Would it make more sense if they were labelled “YouTube Dopamine Hits” ?

Would that make a list of shorts a line? Can I snort them?

Is it even a dopamine hit though? I watched a handful of them and they all seemed to just be someone yelling at the camera for 5 seconds, then a 5 second shot of whatever the hell they were yelling about, then 10 to 15 seconds of them asking me to like and subscribe.

I use shorts for cute animal videos, that’s their only legitimate purpose imo

It’s funny because everyone shits on tiktok for it’s short videos yet I regularly watch videos that are 3-5 minutes long if not longer.

Your feed shows you what you interact with. Outside of ads I rarely see content that’s not related to my interests and most of the videos I see are much longer than a vine.

Which is especially ironic to me how vines weren’t considered attention span killing brain rot that everyone sees tiktok to be.

Unless I’m looking up something very specific I generally don’t bother with videos that are less than 15 minutes long anymore. Otherwise I feel like I’m spending more time looking for more videos than actually watching them…

Vines were never culturally ubiquitous enough for old people to know what they were and rant about it.

i hate it because I can’t move through the timeline

Your algorithm still suggests videos that have a point?

Mine is mostly educational content.

There isnt any appeal. It is just them trying to carve into that tiktok market, but the people watching tiktok are already just watching tiktok, so it is basically just there to annoy the rest of us.

Tiktok just doesn’t seem worth it to me. Why would I spend days scrolling past cringey dance videos until the algorithm figures me out, when I can just see all the best Tiktoks reposted on Lemmy and Reddit?

The appeal is to the creators, resulting from the differences in unit economics for monetisation structures related to youtube shorts, tiktok, reels, snapchat etc., vs. conventional youtube, facebook or instagram videos.

And also there’s appeal to Youtube as a platform, being a place logically suited to this new paradigm of shorter vertical videos where discovery is mostly algorithmically driven but having some issues with the organisational structure of their content that make it uncompetitive with platforms which popularised the format.

It’s not appealing to Youtube users because a choice to use Youtube has historically always included a deference to the conventional youtube video format. People that prefer tiktok format would organically become tiktok users not because tiktok is a better platform than Shorts for it, but because youtube already existed and established its own format, so it’s not the logical place to go for something that isn’t that.

I get the appeal, I just hate that I can’t cast them to my TV normally. I can watch shorts on the TV, but I have to disconnect the devices (phones). I can watch it on my phone, but I have to disconnect from the TV, ending the queue. BUT I can watch them on my phone the look into my history and cast them as a normal video. WHY IS THIS PROCESS EVEN THERE IF THERE CAN BE A NORMAL FUCKING VIDEO???

I’m just so tired of the stupid shit.

The worst thing about shorts is that they are just the videos you were already going to watch but cut up into 10 shorts devoid of relevant context. No thanks youtube I will watch the full video

The website or tv app is better than the phone app if that’s any help

Revanced is the best

ReVanced literally solves every single one of these problems.

Maybe if you compare it to LibreTube or NewPipe, but it must be slimmer than the normal app.

I need to update it.
Again.
It’s broken.
Again.

I’ve literally been watching YT on my mobile browser instead because it’s a PITA to update.

Strange, months-old versions work fine for me, and the update is not too difficult either. On an ARM64 device, you open RVX Manager, check for the recommended YouTube version, download it from APKMirror, optionally check its hash, pick it in RVX Manager, and patch it (takes 2-5 minutes). You can also press the 💾 icon to save the trusted APK you made so you can share it to other devices, including ARMv7 ones.

I can’t remember ever updating and I’m good.

Also newpipe x sponsorblock and libretube (amazing when it works)

NewPipe rewrite release when? It’s been 9 months!

I’ve switched to pipepipe for the time being. On fdroid.

It’s now called tubular, by the same dev

https://github.com/polymorphicshade/Tubular

The old repository got archived

https://github.com/polymorphicshade/NewPipe

Thanks for the info. Looks great! Wish I knew about this sooner.

Or untraped for YouTube (FF extension) if you’re fine with using the web page

Can you block shorts? Those still come up in my recs

You should be able to I believe

Yeah, there’s a option to hide shorts in the feed as well as to hide the shorts button from the bottom bar. Can’t even remember the last time I saw any shorts lol

I do think it’s funny that the one company that won’t let you solve a problem Google created, is Apple. Meanwhile Android has had sideloaded apps for ages.

So, un-jailbroken iPhones can run uYouPlus, or similar apps through AltStore. You can sign into your account, view/post comments, see dislikes, auto-skip ads, intros, outros, etc., completely disable Shorts, and so many more things…

The only problem is you have to re-sign the app by tethering it to a computer once every year (if you have an Apple Developer account) or every week for everyone else.

yeah i know about that, i had it but removed it since sideloading with linux is a bit of a mess. i don’t know if you can disable shorts and community posts there though, i never checked

I’m using uYouPlus but I can’t find the option to disable shorts.

Edit: Nvm I figured it out.

It is under settings > general > uYou > home

Newpipe is also a solid choice

GitHub link

Ehh not really. I can’t even read comment replies, and as far as I know, you can’t make any comments yourself. Syncing your subscriptions is a giant mess. Tho I still use it for downloading purposes, best option for that on mobile imo.

Huh, I never use any of those features anyway so I guess I never thought about it.

I don’t really comment or read comments and never bothered syncing my subscriptions. I just went through my YouTube subs list and added them on new pipe, took like 3 ish minutes.

Get Grayjay. It has all of that, plus you can log into your youtube account with it.

LPT: Access youtube from a Swiss IP address. You will get a big “reject all” button up front. Reject all includes “watch history”

Youtube algorithm the same as the rest of them, based on your own history.

What amazing laws do you have in Switzerland that makes that happen?

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