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I removed it by installing Linux

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Thanks now we all know what idiot to block 🤣

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Fair, same

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There’s a nix based distro called SnowFlake that I am not sure why but think might be interesting for you.

Might be your whining. Will never know, I guess

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You’re hilarious! Your projection is truly first class. I’m amazed that you think it’s totally fine for some nix bro to post the exact same comment on every post about windows but anyone who dissents is a snowflake. Get the fuck over yourself.

You’re truly an embarrassment to us linux enjoyers.

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This made me chuckle

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Annnnnnnnnnnd there it is!

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Like clockwork! Almost as reliable as the OS /s

Linux has no mainstream advertising so word-of-mouth is the only way it gets adopted.

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It’s also about the customer having better options beyond “modify the ever-living shit out of Windows until it behaves”. Microsoft only does these things because they know how many hundreds of millions of customers are locked into their ecosystem. No matter what they do, no matter how poorly they treat their customers, they’ll keep coming back to buy more! So why should they care? Why should they slow down or offer some privacy-friendly version for anything below $1000 per person? Hell, I’m surprised Microsoft hasn’t been steadily raising the price of Windows over the years. Not like the customers are going to actually switch, right?

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Honestly, I would switch to Linux if it didn’t take so much time to learn. I’ve messed around on a Raspberry π 4th gen board, but have no real experience. To really make the Linux jump, I’d need a tutor or something.

Also I don’t know which of my games will be compatible.

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This might be a deeper dive than you mean but should cover everything you’d need to know and more

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Mint and Debian are great, and once you set everything as you like it, they’re pretty solid. Pop_OS is easy if you have an Nvidia GPU too.

As for comparability, proton has all but settled the issue. The SteamDeck runs on Linux after all. Take a look on Proton Database to check if a game works well or not. FWIW, every game I’ve tried save one has been flawless, and that one did things with files and wallpapers.

If you have a second computer you don’t need working, I’d recommend just trying something on it, switch distributions now and then. See how far you can get with just Linux.

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I finally switched to Linux as my daily driver (gaming, browsing, watching stuff) a week ago. Admittedly I have been using it at work for a few years.

  • I chose Pop!_OS as a distribution, because it supposedly streamlines nvidia driver hassles and I wanted to give it a try
  • Installed the OS, Discord, Steam, no problems
  • Installed and played Raft, Vampire Survivors, TW Warhammer 3, Outer Wilds, no problems and no additional config needed

Just to add a voice to the positive feedback! If you have a spare computer or hard drive, I absolutely encourage you to try it out!

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Most games are compatible, you can also check https://protondb.com/ for each game, how people play it and how they run it. It’s a very neat website!

About the jump: Do it now, and you’ll thank yourself later. I did it with no prior experience myself and didn’t find it difficult at all tbh, as previous comment suggested, try Mint first of you’re afraid. And if you want an easy to use one that also focus on a bit of gaming then try PopOS! Don’t let the amount of choices discourage or confuse you, just pick one and go with it. Feel free to message me if you ever need any help 🌻

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go to linux alreadiii

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Sigh.

Sure.

Now how do you: CAD, exchange, Publisher, Access, Excel (no, open versions of excel still don’t come close, they can’t even do tables), Onenote/SharePoint, etc, etc.

And Linux is as messed up in its own way. Power management is off by default, so it kills your laptop battery (at least on every version I’ve tested). Notifications that you can’t silence without looking up a command line.

No, the learning curve is still too steep to recommend to people who I will have to support.

And while the Open/Libre office apps are “compatible”, people don’t have time to waste dealing with the ways they whack a document. Libre couldn’t even properly display the spreadsheet I use to setup a new machine, with 3 sheets and a few hundred lines, because tables.

“Switch to Linux” is a simplistic answer that doesn’t address the needs of users. And I use Linux every day, as a serverOS, running VM’s and docker.

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What learning curve? Whether my mom clicks on the Firefox icon in Ubuntu or Windows makes zero difference

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Dude literally just explained the issues facing actual workers that use computers for productive activities, not your mother looking up tendie recipes.

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12 points

They hated him for he spoke the truth…

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uh hu, you locked yourself in. Imo if you dont need Excel, OneNote or any of that shit, its perfectly cool. For devs its even nicer not to have to deal with all the windows shit ways of doing things. As for documents, LaTeX is great.

Also, in the end, the command line is even easier than having to learn shitty user interfaces. And you get much faster with command line too. Windows likes to have 3 different design languages from different decades for no reason.

Using it as OS and as Server, it has been perfect for years.

People who don’t use it either have a life and simply dont want things to change, or are too foolish to realise they are getting trolled with every update.

For people starting, just dual boot a Linux Distro. For the shit that requires windows boot into it. The rest can all be done in linux. Even boots faster.

And for average people probably the google documents / slides […] will be more than enough.

Rip to people that need windows shit to be in their life for work. Though they could also use a windows vm.

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I could not find any selfhostable solution that comes close to the features of one note. Handwriting, offline work and syncing are a must for me.

Also one note web sucks.

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“Switch to Linux” is a simplistic answer that doesn’t address the needs of users. And I use Linux every day, as a serverOS, running VM’s and docker.

“Let me debate you about why you shouldn’t use Windows” as if I want to use Windows, people who have no experience with the software in my industry dropping alternatives. Even had someone debate me after saying I’m a sysadmin in a mixed environment, and how I alone should just move the whole company and all our software vendors to Linux.

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Just as a minor correction - Librecalc can do tables. Why they didn’t call it tables and bind it to CTRL&T is beyond me though. link

select the cells -> Data -> AutoFilter

I create them with CTRL&T through the custom shortcuts in options. They work about the same as Excel.

Librecalc is a little rough, but I’m actually starting to find it superior in functionality and customization compared to MS. And it’s about 10x faster on very large spreadsheets for me.

I would also definitely recommend using use dark mode if you’re going to use calc. Options -> Application Colors -> LibreOffice Dark

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What’s slowing down Linux adoption?

Is it the monopoly Microsoft has on all PC hardware and strong relationships it has with desktop software partners that make leaving windows near impossible?

No, it must be the users.

/s insert principal Skinner meme

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Gaming

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Gaming on Linux is ridiculously easy. And for some, easier than on Windows.

It’s only really in VR where I notice Windows being better. On average, my games run better on Linux than on Windows, which is crazy considering they were made for Windows.

There are some games that use kernel-level anti-cheat (essentially a rootkit for your PC), these don’t work in Linux, and Linux devs have made clear they won’t accept inclusions of rootkits in the kernel.

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I forgot what 2008 was like. Thanks for the reminder

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I game on Linux all the time. I’ve been playing apex legends, phasmophobia (VR), palworld, the finals, and so much more. It all works on Linux. There’s not a lot of games that I can’t play. Most of the time my sister, who’s on Windows, has more trouble getting her games running.

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Commercial support for it.

On a personal level, I installed Ubuntu for the first time in over a decade and found the experience worse. Previously I could download everything I needed either through the package manager or deb file easily. Ow I ran into a new flat pack type installer that has failing dependencies that weren’t found through command line either. The new mouse driver in gnome was hot garbage too with the touchpad sensitivity so high I couldn’t scroll more than a page and a half at even the lightest touch. No settings to change it either. Windows is far easier at this point.

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Nothing near the level of Adobe software for example.

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These types of comments are annoying and super unhelpful.

Nice job /s

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To this point just use Linux already. You will be doing a lot of telemetry cleaning and even might be breaking things.

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My anti-cheat don’t work on Linux

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But that’s worse, because that implies ring 0 anticheat. That is synonym of rootkit.

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or use the enterprise edition which is the only windows edition with an option to disable telemetry using group policy editor. in the other versions, you have to resort to terrible hacks.

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It is bad the AMD support in windows. In Linux is better in my case. For sysadmin sorry but powershell is overengineered garbage. You need a very long command when in shell you got in three pipes. Even what are your proposing its hard to do, and sincerely i think it is better to just use a sane linux distro.

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idk it’s over-engineered but it’s actually pretty cool in it’s own way. it’s like a crappier version of nushell i guess. still I’d rather use nu.

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install random third party software that may be sniffing or leaking information to remove shady features from windows that sniff and leak information.

windows sucks.

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My reason for not using them is that they tend to be overly aggressive in what they remove. I only need a few reg tweaks and denying permissions on a few files. These often go whole hog and remove whole components, almost all apps etc. I actually use one drive, I don’t want its files also removed.

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The app is open source so you can review the not-leaking-your-information that it does yourself.

Windows on the other hand …

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I wonder how many apps this actually happens for, my guess is “way less than people think”

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Yeah, but it is virtually impossible to read all code running on your machine. At the very least it is an option. While I personally wouldn’t search the code of random open source calculator app. I’ll be damned if I ain’t inspecting something like this.

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That they leak information? I work in commercial software development and I have to do a lot of open source security reviews. The answer is: virtually none.

Private, closed-source software on the other hand… If it could sniff your farts and send the smell to advertisers, it would; in almost all cases.

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For me it is so weird, that you have to use extra tools to disable telemetry and unwanted features in windows systems. Why is windows not giving me a central option to decide on those things? Is it maybe because they do not want me to decide for myself and therefore splitting the places where I need to disable all that unwanted stuff as opaque as possible? Can they be more obvious that they do not value your opinion on how you want your OS to behave?

Quit Windows. It is a dead end and get worst with every release.

If you tolerate this, then your children will be next.

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Quit for what? Linux is a mess with hardware like fingerprint readers being unsupported, and without the most used commercial software. Mac OS is a buggy mess lately, and it ties your data to a time bomb hardware and that damn walled garden.

Windows is the best general use OS out there, and Microsoft knows it. We need regulation to stop that abuse.

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It’s a shame. I really love Windows 10. It’s fast and the UI’s ergonomy is near perfect.

On my work laptop we recently had to switch to Windows 11 and it’s a fucking pain to use. You have to jump through so many hoops and do extra clicks to do what you want. And the start menu has become completely useless. And I hate the gaps and rounded corners everywhere. And that’s just on the surface. Performance is piss poor and you have all that crap spying on you to collect your usage data.

The day Windows 10 becomes unsupported is the day I go 100% Linux.

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Forced to use it at work, too, and only by the grace of being in the IT department do I have the ability to make it less shitty.

There’s registry entries to restore the full context menu, and PowerToys Run has effectively become my defacto start menu, though obviously you need to use the keyboard so it’s not a perfect UI replacement. Meanwhile for searching, I’ve got Everything running and set global keyboard shortcuts/touchpad gestures to it. Maybe I’ll grab an old gaming mouse and shortcut them to the extra buttons.

They finally implemented never combine on the taskbar, and it’s…tolerable, but buggy and still resizes things for no reason

Unfortunately I’ve yet to find a way to get some damn 90° angles back. I can not wait for a few years down the line when we finally swing away from this Apple-chasing “bubbles with an inch between them on a white/black field” design aesthetic. I’m tired of everything looking like a toy, especially at the cost of its actual utility.

And not just a toy, the same toy. It’s seriously Corporate Memphis levels of lifeless, forced design with no character, creativity, or ingenuity.

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TIL about PowerToys Run. That’s a game changer for me. Thanks!

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Forced to use it at work, too, and only by the grace of being in the IT department do I have the ability to make it less shitty.

I’m a user 🤮 and the IT on my Japanese employer is run by Mordac the Information Preventer. FML.

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This has been exactly my stance as well apart from ever having used Win11. Never did and never plan to, downloaded Mint a few months ago to start getting familiar with it. Turns out I’m not real great at technical stuff but I’m getting there. Dual monitors was kind of a booger and now I’m trying to figure out how to install some games since Bottles is being a real wiener about Battle.Net. I’m glad there’s so many resources and forums out there but I still hope some version of Linux gets dumbed down a little more before Win10 sunsets to make the transition easier for us blue collar folk

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I had problem with bottles and battle.net too. It went flawless year ago, then I went to play other games and when I finally wanted to play Diablo 2 again, battle.net kept crashing all the time. I solved it by running that bottle in wine-ge. Easier way to get it (and manage such prefixes) is ProtonUp-qt that is also on flathub.

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For games, running stuff through Steam makes things much easier, as it configures Proton for you automatically. Also check out https://www.protondb.com/ for ratings and help with specific games.

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I’ve been using Manjaro on an old modded chromebook. Windows is not gonna be on my next machine build.

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I think you can use a third-party tool to remove rounded corners

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Windows 10 already had telemetry (what you call spying) and what it didn’t have in the past got patched in. So when it comes to that both Windows 10 and 11 are the same.

Performance is totally fine for me on Windows 11, but the new right click context menu sucks.

Overall there’s really not much difference between the two otherwise.

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MS even backported spying to Win7

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I switched to linux yeats ago but i now need to build myself a windows 11 base image thats as lightweight as possible for my vms and im dreading that immeansly. I just want onw toll that can kill literally everything thats unessasary. I mean unless proton and wine has gotten good enough to run autocad programs.

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Use Windows LTSC, it doesn’t have this stuff. Then permanently license it with the MAS tool on github (let me go find a link)

https://github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts

Courtesy of subtext

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This is absolutely the way. My wife needed windows for school recently… Ltsc was the only way to go.

I use windows 11 for work and it’s absolutely horrible… took them a year to let us ungroup windows on the task bar. Win11 literally didn’t ship with that ability.

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Tiny11 is good too!

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want your OS

That’s the problem, it’s not your OS.

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If you tolerate this, then your children will be next.

Trust me, I’m not installing Windows as the Operating System for my Children’s brains.

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Been this way since windows XP. There’s always been good folk who go out and provide tools to remove bloat.

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