Is there anybody whose had experience with both?

I’m trying to decide if I want to go back to Manjaro or get into Endeavour.

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Endeavor seems like a better option. The majaro devs don’t seem particularly trustworthy as OS devs, mainly because they hold back security updates as a policy and have allowed things like ssl certs to lapse multiple times. Endeavor gets you the benefits Manjaro provides without the nonsense.

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I personally run on Arch since 2006, rolling that install along over these years. There were around 5 breaking changes in all that time that required a bit of intervention.

A few years back I set up my wives PC with Manjaro, hoping it would give her the same cutting edge experience with a bit more UI fluff to manage it. Boy was I wrong. I had to resolve package conflicts and broken boot sequences every other month.

I gave up and just installed Arch on that machine.

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EndeavourOS is my preference. I appreciate that they don’t really modify the Arch experience in any annoying way. Manjaro seems to always break shit. Plus the EOS forums are amazing.

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Manjaro is remarkably bad. One of the few distros I actively caution people to avoid: One, Two, Three, Four

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holy cow i had no idea manjaro was this bad

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@yote_zip @neurodivergentAF lot’s of instability. Understandable. I’ll probably steer clear, if not completely away, from Manjaro :/

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As someone who tried both, I think Endevour is better. 1.It’s more bleeding edge. 2. It’s as close to vanilla Arch as you can get with a gui installer. 3. The dev team seems to be more compitent then the Manjaro team (i.e: shit doesn’t break because someone pushed a WIP package). 4. Better community support (I mean, it’s literally just Arch with a fancy installer).

They’re both fairly easy to install. And it’s fairly easy to switch between the two.

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It’s really not that hard to follow the wiki to install Arch. I feel like there’s a lot of maintaining to do when using Arch, so you might as well get used to the terminal. It wasn’t really an issue when I was using it daily, but has become a chore now that I boot up my laptop once or twice a month.

Funnily enough, I’m always on my Steam Deck now and that is based on Arch, too.

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You have to remember that most people aren’t power users. A lot of people find if difficult to even install Windows. Vanilla Arch isn’t for everybody.

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Honestly, in that case, I can’t recommend Arch to those users. Nothing wrong with Ubuntu for beginners and there’s so much documentation.

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Is it? I thought SteamOS was based on Debian

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Since SteamOS 3 it’s based on Arch

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There’s a years old Debian-based version available for download, but the version that ships on Steam Deck is significantly different and based on Arch.

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Yeah, I’ve used Linux in some capacity since the late nineties and know my way around. I can’t be bothered to fiddle with an Arch install, I’ve moved on, I got better things to do. So I decided to try out EOS on my new laptop. A few clicks and it was running with proprietary NV drivers by default, which are updated as needed by yay. I was playing games within 20 min from my Steam Library preserved on another ssd.

Only thing I had to do was install btrfs-assistant, plasma-Wayland and whatever apps I need.

The most laborious bit was configuring various apps to use Wayland but that didn’t have to happen immediately.

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EndeavourOS is the right answer.

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