My niece has an old iphone with no SIM/phone number. Only wifi internet access.

Looking for an app for both of us to be able to chat

She cant chat with me over signal because no phonee number. She chats with the rest of the family over imessage, but i have an android phone

Is there an app available for both android and iphone to let me chat with her?

Thanks

Edit: willing to self-host for extra privacy. My nieces and nephews are all young children so i definitely want to encourage/educate them to get off corporate controlled communications channels

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Buy an iPhone.

Yeah, yeah. I know. You may not like it (or do it) but you asked for options and it’s an option.

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jisti, nextcloud talk, element matrix …go big: IRC

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Would be so cool if my kids and nieces/nephews used IRC!!

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I’m aware of the community this is posted in, but my kid talks to her grandparents via the chat features in Google photos. Works over WiFi with specific contacts and no phone number required. It lets her show them pictures she’s drawn.
Google are involved of course, but there’s no algorithm pushing promoted posts or any of that BS

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Wow, I am so so much against your suggestion, but I have to upvote you, for your bravery.

To add something constructive: The app Element as a Matrix client works good for me.

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With Signal you only need a SIM card to register the account via the Signal app on the phone. You can receive the SMS for registering on another phone. After registering you can simply use Signal over WiFi. If this is too difficult, XMPP with a good OMEMO client for E2EE is an option. Easiest to install and start with is perhaps DeltaChat, E2EE chat via email : https://delta.chat/en/ You only need to learn what to do if the E2EE is not working right away. They have a FAQ and hints in the app.

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if you use textfree, you can probably register on signal with a fake-as-fuck phone number. but i think textfree requires a valid phone number for that.
very sucky to have to do all that.

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Session, but if you’re really paranoid ofc.

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I’m too paranoid to use Session. They took a perfectly acceptable app with perfectly good forward security, broke the perfect forward secrecy, and put it back together with duct tape.

And they just happen to be in a country that requires you break encryption protocols if they are too good.

Coincidence? I don’t know. But I don’t think I trust their software since they just took someone else’s and made it less safe.

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100%

AND their file sending is centralized

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