The only thing I can think of was that the mods announced a time limit of 48 hours for the protests, but I’m not sure that making all the protests indefinite would have solved anything.
Spez was determined to copy Elon Musk even though Elon clearly doesn’t know how to run a social media platform. Now both Reddit and Twitter are dying.
It was never on the table. They decided to kill them, it was not a negociation. Now go play in /r/playplace and stop thinking about it !
I think it was an uphill struggle and nearly impossible to pull off.
Spez had absolutely no interest in changing his stance on working with developers. The hugely ironic thing I read that made me give up hope (and stash my ~1 year in development Reddit App) was Spez saying “It was never designed to support third-party apps.” – yet no acknowledgement that the “official” app was literally a third party app that they purchased years ago called Alien Blue.
Not defending spez, but their business model was not designed to support third party apps, that much is true. They needed a proper model to share profits with third party apps.
How they went about “fixing” that was completely dilletantish and dumbfounding, though. Now they’re not getting any of that potential extra profit and lost a significant amount of users on top
Wow! Is that what happened to Alien Blue? I remember people Praising Alien Blue Years ago… How did they mess that up so bad?
Yep it was bought back in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_Blue
He’s a fucking idiot or a liar. I’d believe either. Or both.
The entire point of having this free, public API is because a free, public API can be monetized, and content scraping cannot. If you are offering a free web app, and you don’t have a free, public API, someone will create scraping tools to do it. So then, instead of spending money maintaining a revenue generating API, you spend money playing cat and mouse with content scraping bots.
The fact that reddit can’t figure out how to push monetization over that API has nothing to do with third party apps, and everything to do with the site having shit leadership.
RIF kinda still works for me, I can browse but can’t post or upvote so that’s good enough for me but I have cut down browsing Reddit loads since the protests
The fact that Reddit moderators quickly folded the moment Spez threatened to take their “powers” away made the whole thing quickly fail. Very few had the balls to go through with the protests and didn’t care about those imaginary powers (honorable mention to the former r/interestingasfuck mods), but many were too addicted to that fake status symbol to even imagine letting go of it and Spez took advantage of that to kill the protests.
For those of us who left Reddit and mostly only use Lemmy now, I believe the 3rd party apps thing was just the straw that broke the camel’s back. I think it’s just that we already hated Reddit so much that when presented with Lemmy we immediately jumped ship.
For many other Redditors however the appocalypse didn’t make any difference, many big subreddits are still very active and the Reddit moderators who folded realized they don’t want to lose their control over those subs and all the potential that control gives them (monetization via partnerships with brands, sponsored AMAs, selling film rights like one former mod of r/wallstreetbets did, shilling your new app, website or crypto like again r/wallstreetbets mods did etc…).
The mistake in these protests was to assume that Reddit mods would align with the interests of 3rd party app users.
I think this places too much blame on mods. Reddit is a corporation and they were going to do what they’re going to do.
Power users cared about 3p apps, the average redditor probably didn’t even know they existed.
It was never going to “succeed” if success was that Reddit backtracked from their position. It would have made spez look too weak.
I think it did cost them a lot more than they suggested in the short term, and I think it’ll cost them more in the long run too.
Lemmy is going to become a real competitor. And it probably never would have previously.
