6 points
*

I just installed one of these for my g/f in her back yard catio and I think it’s great. I play 7 a side on it twice a week.

Why would people want such a useful material ‘banned’? If you don’t like it, then don’t install it. If it doesn’t work out great in your space, then you can always remove it.

In terms of waste, you can say that about literally everything we consume.

permalink
report
reply
0 points

Why would people want such a useful material ‘banned’?

Because it’s not actually useful, it’s just poison.

In terms of waste, you can say that about literally everything we consume.

Yeah, and we need to stop. It’s literally going to drive us to extinction, along with countless other species. This kind of apathy is disgusting.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

It can be useful. It’s a great surface for doing any form of outdoor exercise on.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

Pretty absurd to pretend any of its uses come close to outweighing the negatives.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

Why would people want such a useful material ‘banned’?

Because it’s fucking up the planet and if you haven’t noticed, the planet has been taking quite the beating these past 3 weeks.

In terms of waste, you can say that about literally everything we consume.

Real grass is not consumed and thinking about everything in terms of human consumption is the problem. Change your mindset.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

Real grass is not consumed

I’m not sure what you mean by that, but in many cases people are laying it over what otherwise would be concrete, or gravel places that are not suited to a lawn.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

In terms of waste, you can say that about literally everything we consume.

So it is either all of it or nothing in your book?

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point
*

Do we ban everything wasteful?

I’m not against it, I don’t like waste but starting with fake grass seems odd considering it has uses and there’s plenty of shit we manufacture that is properly useless.

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

Why would people want such a useful material ‘banned’? If you don’t like it, then don’t install it.

For the same reason we are trying to phase out fossil fuels as an energy source - environmental degradation harms everyone. It’s not a matter of personal taste, it’s about protecting the planet we need to live on.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

I have one because we have too much shade to grow grass. We have a 3 storey 60s house and a small, north facing garden. That said only one brand was recyclable at the end of its life, which is a shame

permalink
report
parent
reply
21 points

Yes! It’s literally pollution.

For those that want but are unable to maintain a lawn due to disability or ill health then there should be a scheme by the local council to cut it for them. This could would really well if a local council leaves more public space wild also. Then the work load may reduce but not entirely.

permalink
report
reply
-9 points

Lawns are also a total waste. It takes so much gas to maintain a lawn that serves literally no environmental purpose. At least fake grass you don’t need to waste gas to cut.

Wild space is great though. We should be encouraging that and discouraging all lawns, fake or real.

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

Gas? Why does it use gas to maintain a lawn?

permalink
report
parent
reply
-6 points

Most people cut their lawn with a gas mower. Even electric requires an a mount of energy that is taking it from the grid, which unless it’s totally clean already is increasing dirty energy.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

Wild space attracts dangerous insects like ticks. Back in my home country wild and uncut lawn is a serious administrative offence with a hefty fine.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

Gas?

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

They literally kill the soil under them too.

permalink
report
parent
reply
13 points

Rain gardens are very popular in the Seattle area, here’s an example of community driven programs. https://www.12000raingardens.org/

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

That looks great! Thanks for sharing that. Now I have to see if the UK has these.

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points
*

I think a lot of your areas have similar weather, I think they would cross over nicely. There are tons of clubs and DIY videos here, this is an example: https://www.bhg.com/gardening/landscaping-projects/landscape-basics/make-a-rain-garden/

permalink
report
parent
reply
9 points

Or grow (bee friendly) plants.

Biggest downside of fake grass are. The pollution from fabrication to microplastic waste. Biodiversity unfriendly and,… and! It burns your feet in a hot summer! Shit gets hot.

Artificial soccer fields really radiate heat during sunny days.

permalink
report
parent
reply
0 points

Three quarter of Brits opinions dont matter

permalink
report
reply
1 point

That is not how statistics work my friend.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-7 points

The only arguments against fake grass are that it doesn’t look nice, and it isn’t made from sustainable materials. The arguments for fake grass include that it is low maintenance (negating some of the environmental impact), and that it is much better for people with accessibility needs.

Meanwhile, grass lawns require lots if maintenance (not good at all for the environment), aren’t good for people with accessibility needs, and look boring and unvaried. Meanwhile the upside for a grass lawn is it looks traditional. To that I say, screw tradition. Grow clover, wildflowers, moss, and edible plants in your yard. These NIMBY brit-karens fan fuck off

permalink
report
reply
15 points

https://www.plymouth.ac.uk/discover/why-are-artificial-lawns-bad-for-the-environment

Minimising the objections down to that and then writing them all off as NIMBYism is such an absurd strawman.

I agree that non traditional lawns are better, but that definitely does not include artificial pitch.

permalink
report
parent
reply
13 points
*

We have only a small space in our garden that’s quite sheltered and has poor drainage. We use that space for the dogs to do thier business and if it was real grass there it would just be a toxic shit swamp.

Also in the city near me they took up a lot of paving stones on a well travelled area and replaced it with Astroturf. Were it real grass it would be ground into a dirt track in a few days.

There are useful applications.

permalink
report
reply
2 points

Yep we had a small 3m square patch of paving, we tried turf and it died due to overuse with kids playing and use using it for sitting out, picnics and BBQs. The choice is deck or fake grass and fake grass is cheaper.

We have wildflower border and fake grass currently.

permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points
*

Have you ever thought about walking stones or paving stones and a hardy ground cover? I can’t imagine feeling close to nature on fake grass and doesn’t the bbq melt the grass?

permalink
report
parent
reply
-1 points
*

BBQ is on a couple of paving slabs, was morr talking about social seating and eating But paving slabs are hard, less comfy for play and seating. Also they get very hot in summer (seem to get hotter than the fake grass). I don’t see why dead area of stone is any better

Hardy ground cover may work but we have struggled to find any hardy enough to establish.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

Also in the city near me they took up a lot of paving stones on a well travelled area and replaced it with Astroturf.

Why didn’t they just keep the paving stones?

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

I guess they figured it would look nicer to have the fake grass with some tall planters on it that just the larger swathe of concrete with planters on

permalink
report
parent
reply

United Kingdom

!unitedkingdom@feddit.uk

Create post

General community for news/discussion in the UK.

Less serious posts should go in !casualuk@feddit.uk or !andfinally@feddit.uk
More serious politics should go in !uk_politics@feddit.uk.

Try not to spam the same link to multiple feddit.uk communities.
Pick the most appropriate, and put it there.

Posts should be related to UK-centric news, and should be either a link to a reputable source, or a text post on this community.

Opinion pieces are also allowed, provided they are not misleading/misrepresented/drivel, and have proper sources.

If you think “reputable news source” needs some definition, by all means start a meta thread.

Posts should be manually submitted, not by bot. Link titles should not be editorialised.

Disappointing comments will generally be left to fester in ratio, outright horrible comments will be removed.
Message the mods if you feel something really should be removed, or if a user seems to have a pattern of awful comments.

Community stats

  • 2.2K

    Monthly active users

  • 2K

    Posts

  • 20K

    Comments