Hey guys, what are the pros and cons to wayland if I intend to use my PC for gaming + others?

Comparisons to X?

General impressions?

Your advice on if I should use it or stick with X?

My PC parts are arriving soon, and while Ive been a linux user since 2016 its the first time I intend to fully main drive linux, so I guess im just looking for as much information as I can get on it.

Feel free to post links to articles or anything that will answer if you prefer, we’re on a link aggregator after all ;) and I dont mind reading.

Thanks in advance :)

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A major downside of even trying Wayland is that you need to throw away all the knowledge and all the little tools you built up over the years on X and start over from scratch. And that without a guarantee that you won’t have to come back to X due to the lack of hardware support on one out of two major graphics card vendors.

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But that is to be expected when switching stuff.

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For new users this isn’t really a problem though, but I agree with the sentiment

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For new users it is mainly a problem for blog posts and similar sources that now provide solutions to their problems that no longer work.

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Good point

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I dont plan on using nvidia anytime soon so thats not an issue. As for tools, while ive been a long time linux user, this is the first time ill really be able to truly daily-drive/main a linux distro (previously my desktop was Windows and LTs were linux). So as for little tools, I dont mind either as Ill really start collecting/building them up now

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I dont plan on using nvidia anytime soon

Neither was I but with recent AI developments and those being a lot better supported on CUDA than AMD’s ROCm it is a concern for some.

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Im not aware of these, but either way I dont really dabble with AI so I doubt it would seriously affect me, at least for a very long time

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I’m not a distro hopper. I settled on Ubuntu, which was fairly quick to adopt Wayland. I haven’t had any issues beyond the occasional app (kitty) that doesn’t show decorations properly without minor tweaking. (And, despite its name, X forwarding over SSH works just fine.)

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There is another con even without nvidia, app compatibility is still a very noticeable problem sometimes.
For example, as far as I know there are still no on-screen keyboards, except for those integrated into desktops, if they have them at all.

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Ive redid my arch install with 27 4k monitor and decided to go with gnome . Then switched to Wayland because their fractional scaling for hidpi works great comparing to x11. Overall I very much like it, I used to have various small artifacts on x11 and now they’re gone. Waiting for xwayland scaling fix and it’s all I need personally.

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Try it. Easy enough to have both options on your machine. I poke into Wayland about every 6-12 months, then go back to X11 because I just can’t be fucked with fixing shit that works under X11 and is broken with Wayland. Plenty of people try Wayland and don’t have any issues. Eventually just about everyone will be on Wayland, if that makes a difference to you. I’ll check it again in maybe near the end of 2023.

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