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I perused the comments and didn’t see anyone mention this. The term “engineer” is regulated by every state in the US. I doubt they had Tinder in mind, but calling yourself an “engineer” without having a Professional Engineer license is illegal, at least when it comes to offering professional engineering services. It’s a protected title so that schools and bridges don’t get built by scammers–at least that was the intention. I can legally call myself an Engineer!

Just go get your license, and you should be golden lol.

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While backend- and other types of software developers seem to be unaffected

What if you write backend code for web application?

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As a non-software engineer, feels weird that they’re making this distinction.

I don’t have much to do with engines either.

I take engineer to mean: designs stuff that does some task, involving SOME kind of calculation.

Visual designer: not an engineer

Piping designer: not an engineer (although this one felt weird, that’s what the piping designer corrected me to say, so)

Chemical engineer: ya

Mechanical engineer: yeah

Software engineer: totally different flavour, but still yeah

Language is what we want it to be.

Web designers presumably still need to script things, I reckon that counts 👍

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they should also ban web developers who refer to themselves as ninjas, especially code ninjas

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Ah yes, I’ve spent decades cringing when I meet a self-proclaimed or even peer-proclaimed “rockstar”, “ninja”, “guru”, “jedi”, or probably a half dozen other “cool” designations for a tech worker.

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rockstar

We fixed that one: https://codewithrockstar.com/

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What if you do it ironically? Like calling yourself a Code Ninja Jedi 10x Rockstar 🚀?

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Ninjas, super-heroes, black-belt and terms like that are known gender-excluders. I’ve been through a couple of adjustment sessions for company standard job descriptions and it’s unreal how you can change the applicant mix by wording.

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Bullshit. This started long ago. We’re deep in the midst of it now.

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I have a CS Masters degree and it says engineer on it.

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There is a difference between Computer Science and >!web development!< though.

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“web development” casts a wide net.

The classic imagery of someone playing with frontpage back in the day, or screwing around with html in a text editor, sure. But those folks wouldn’t call themselves web developers (there was a phase over 20 years ago where anyone that cobbled together a geocities would declare ‘web developer’ on their resume, but I haven’t seen someone do that in ages).

However, you can get in pretty deep with code running in the browser as javascript and/or wasm. Backend gives them some nested dictionary in json or protobuf and they parse, manipulate, iterate over it, sometimes making some pretty complex visualizations. Basically a ‘web developer’ is nowadays on par with any Game or GUI application developer in terms of what they might be writing. There are a few things left out of direct reach by a browser runtime, but you have access to plenty and the backend abstractions to get something in reach of HTTP are often no easier than the thing being abstracted, it’s just reframed as ‘http’.

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There really isn’t. For example web browsers can execute assembly now and a good “web developer” (I’d call them a software engineer) will use assembly where appropriate.

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With WebUSB (supported in Chrome) and the possibility to build web applications to controls physical devices there’s definitely some web developers who can claim to be proper engineers even in the strict definitions

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Did you Master Engineering Computer Scientists?

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No. Counter strike

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Unironically this. Started playing on the campus network in my master’s year.

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Darn skippy I did! Not much of a web designer, though.

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