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Who the fuck is switching to trump, especially now? Jesus Christ, I’m starting to feel like people deserve that motherfucker.

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Michael Moore explained why Trump would win before the 2016 General. It’s still relevant today. I don’t know how else to unbrainwash Trumpers though because they’re being duped.

https://youtu.be/vMm5HfxNXY4

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Polls are easily, and usually are, skewed or produced in a way to get the desired result. Anyways… This one is garbage, too.

Siena College is a Catholic institution.

Of course a group of lgbtq+/women-hating nationalist Christians say the party that is against them is losing votes and doing poorly.

Future use: If you see “Siena College and Poll” in the same article … it’s garbage.

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Polls are easily, and usually are, skewed or produced in a way to get the desired result. Anyways… This one is garbage, too.

I have a related degree and have done polling in the past.

You’re using an ad hominem about the New York Times being secret Catholic Trump supporters, because you don’t like the results of the poll, but don’t know enough about polling or statistics to attack the poll’s methodology. People are upvoting you for the same reasons.

Anyway, the full results and methodology are here:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/03/03/us/elections/times-siena-poll-registered-voter-crosstabs.html

Here’s a website that aggregates polling on Biden’s popularity from multiple pollsters:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/03/03/us/elections/times-siena-poll-registered-voter-crosstabs.html

Of course a group of lgbtq+/women-hating nationalist Christians say the party that is against them is losing votes and doing poorly.

Why would they want to make it seem like a tight race and that Biden might lose? That’s likely to increase turnout of voters who don’t want that to happen.

If you want to depress turnout of democratic voters, you would produce polls that say Biden’s almost certain to win.

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One drawback of Lemmy is the notable tendency for people to use the downvote button as “I don’t like what this says”

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it’s at least partially to do with the poster, isn’t it? this guy is posting any and all Biden concern troll pieces, around the clock, and it’s rather exhausting.

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Hot take of the day: You’re probably right in this case, but the label of “concern troll” generally does more harm than good because its liberal application often has the effect of stifling genuine conversation. It makes more sense to engage each such person genuinely taking the argument on the merits rather than simply labelling the source as “concern troll”.

Not saying OP isn’t, but just something I’ve been wanting to say for a while. More than once (on Reddit) people have falsely labelled me as a concern troll.

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No, the downvote is that this poll is pure propaganda produced by a Catholic institution.

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Right, because either the New York Times is Catholic or Catholicism is contagious and anyone who works with a Catholic institution is also Catholic.

And also, the content of a poll doesn’t matter. No criticism of the polling method or anything like that. Just “i don’t like the people who made it so I will consider it false”.

Also, Biden is Catholic. Odd that you think that this Catholic institution would be malicious and also put out a hit piece against him.

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Yeah. I have a related degree. The NYT published the full results and methodology here:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/03/03/us/elections/times-siena-poll-registered-voter-crosstabs.html

At a first glance it doesn’t look too shoddy.

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This is the best summary I could come up with:


Eight months ahead of the general election, President Joe Biden remains in a precarious position as he continues to trail former President Donald Trump in a rematch among likely voters, according to the latest New York Times/Siena poll.

Amid Biden’s polling troubles, two significant things stand out in the Times/Siena survey: Biden is currently losing a bloc of supporters who backed him in the 2020 election and he is virtually tied with Trump among women, a key group that backed him by 11 points that year.

In an election that could be decided by close margins in a handful of swing states, any slight defection or bump in support could prove decisive for each of the contenders.

Women, who backed Biden by a 55% to 44% margin in 2020, were key to his election, along with Democratic candidates across the country as the party held the House that year and regained control of the Senate in January 2021.

While the president has touted strong jobs growth and low unemployment, inflation during much of the COVID-19 pandemic ate into the pocketbooks of Americans and many voters remain pessimistic about the country’s economic fortunes.

The poll also showed Biden ahead among suburban voters, a key group that will play a significant role in races up and down the ballot.


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SURE they are.

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