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EVs were never here to save the world. They were here to save the car industry.

Edit: a lot of those replying to me feel the need to say this is a good thing. The point is, most of this drip feed is for profits. As people, we can adjust to sudden changes in our environment. Fear of this is the killer. The little death that whispers to us this is alright. The world is spiraling drastically. It will take drastic measures to save our civility and ourselves.

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35 points

Less pollution is nice

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10 points

Yeah, people sometimes don’t understand diversity of tactics. The problems that cars cause are a pain and really bad for our mental health, but without climate change being a factor they’re not going to drive us extinct.

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6 points

Less, but not none.

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2 points

Say goodbye to the Amazon rainforest, as we’re mining there for the batteries

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Too bad that’s a lie since they still have all the polluting aspects of car production and wear items (tires, brake pads, pumps) plus way more electronic waste. The only thing they dont’ have is specific tail-pipe emissions, which on the balance is the least important part of car pollution.

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20 points

@PowerCrazy @TheRealCharlesEames No. Tailpipe emissions are far and away the worst thing coming out of a car, because they are destroying the climate of the entire earth. If unchecked, it will destroy every ecosystem extant on the planet and kill most humans. 1.7 million deaths a year is truly, epically awful, but still not even a small fraction as bad.

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-7 points

Not to mention (at least here in the US) roughly 60% of our power generation is fossil fuels. So you just shift the tailpipe emissions somewhere else. Assuming you don’t charge at home with a solar setup or something.

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18 points

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We know how to fix this…
Increase Urban density around new suburban “nodes” Make those nodes walkable 15 minute citties. Link nodes to other nodes with mass transit and bike lanes.

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14 points

You can swap one car for another, and it still won’t change the immense harm caused by the infrastructure that these different cars depend on.

Rubber tire dust is still the same with EVs, probably more due to their weight.

Swaths of green space being taken up by 8+ lane highways and parking won’t just go away because an EV is using it.

The harm to pedestrians and cyclists will not change because we have more EVs.

If we don’t reduce our dependency on cars, then “car harm” will never go away.

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4 points

That’s not what all the companies making money from saying otherwise are saying

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EVs are here to get us off oil. A car free society will take decades and we just aren’t going to go from gas cars straight to no cars, it’s simply not realistic.

Singling out EVs with headlines like these or talking about how EVs are still polluting through tires and what have you even when it’s a fraction of ICE vehicles is being an oil industry mouthpiece.

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It’s not realistic to replace every single car with an electric one. It will take an insane amount of resources that we can’t spare. We definitely should only be making electric cars but we need to have a lot less of them.

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