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I hope nobody is truly shocked by this. Outraged? Yes, but shocked no. The US 3 letter agencies have a long history of overreach. Our elected officials are complicit in this all in the false name of “public safety” and “anti-terrorism” when their is little empirical evidence to suggest either mission is being accomplished. Instead, we have agencies profiling Americans on a massive scale that would make Brezhnev of the USSR jealous if he were alive today.

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Can’t imagine how frustrating it must be to be Edward Snowden, give up a lucrative future in government work to do the right thing and put the word out, be hunted for the rest of your life by Uncle Sam. The collective response to your sacrifice was a big fat “meh”

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Sadly, you would be correct. Edward Snowden sacrificed his life to help us only to be met with nothing in return.

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This is an increasingly unpopular opinion on reddit from what I’ve seen. Glad the sane people switched sites.

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There’s even a movie… Noting changed so far irl, it’s surreal

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All he wanted was to let people know. What people decide to do with the information is up to the people. He achieved his goals, it isn’t his problem if people just ignore his message.

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Yeah, people are aware now so can make decisions on their own and decide their own risk tolerance.

One thing I find funny though is how people think I don’t care if X country has my info it’s my home country Y I’m more worried about. But, their country Y is probably hacking country X and retrieving all their info from there with possibly less red flags to get through. So it really comes down to what people choose to share and use than a certain countries publicized spying policies.

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If his objective was to inform people, he at least succeeded with me

I do my best to avoid things that were exposed, and it confirms not to trust our “safeguards”

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Every time a program like this is pushed through and people say that there are safeguards to prevent abuse, remember this. They claimed there were safeguards here too.

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Always frustrates me when I hear about why we’re so much different to Russia/China because we have laws and safeguards. They mean shit

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Stuff like this always makes me wonder how good the surveillance state actually is. I mean, a bunch of hillbillies planned an insurrection on Facebook for fucks sake.

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Well like always the “hillbillies” are probably hand in hand with the insurrectionists.

“Some of those that work forces. Are the same that burn crosses” - RATM

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Also,

Zack de la Rocha sometimes changes the lyrics in the second verse from “Some of those that work forces are the same that burn crosses” to “Some of those that burn crosses are the same that hold office” when playing live.

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He also supports Mexican terrorists and lives in a mansion.

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5 points

Yup, no doubt.

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2 points

No, Rage Against the Machine. No Doubt did “Don’t Speak”.

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I think that’s a bit misleading, TBH. The attack was fairly well planned, and far from just a bunch of hillbillies. Yeah, they were a part of it, and part of the plan, but summarizing them as the brains behind the coup attempt is undercutting the risk of it being tried again.

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Which just furthers op’s main point, really. I mean it was fairly well planned in a fairly overt fashion, why weren’t they prepared?

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Definitely wasn’t saying they were the brains. But the message was communicated to them via Facebook. They actively participated in the conspiracy, which took place on Facebook. My point is, the data was there, and it wasn’t acted upon for some reason.

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Well that was good for propoganda purposes. Gives them an excuse to get more intrusive.

Youll notice that on Jan 6, none of the people in the Capitol Building had guns, and also note the video of them being waved in, and also note that they weren’t immediately forced out.

Jan 6 glows like the sun.

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“Every time someone makes me look bad by agreeing with me in public, it’s because they’re feds.”

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If you think the federal government tells the truth, I have a bridge to sell you.

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In 2021, for example, the FBI ran more than 3.3 million queries through the Section 702 database, according to a government transparency report.

3.3 million spies of the Patriot Act. It’s set to expire this year, but they’ll reauthorize it. No one is strong enough to throw the ring into the fire.

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