How does it stack up against traditional package management and others like AUR and Nix?

85 points

Best of the three major agnostic package formats. If it brings more focus to Linux development, I don’t see how it can be a bad thing. A bit more space needed but for most setups this is a non-issue

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6 points

Plus, being able to sandbox user space applications, which previously had free reign, is nice.

Sandboxing isn’t 100% there yet, but it’s come along way.

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Yeah duplication of running libraries is also a RAM/CPU resource issue but for modern well resourced machines probably not noticable. It is an issue when scaling down to low powered / old devices though. Like, running a web browser which runs in it’s own sandbox with duplicate libraries running is going to have noticable performance differences compared to a non-sandboxed program running native libraries on a low RAM or low CPU system.

That’s not to say Flatpak isn’t a good solution; and all the agnostic package formats have the same issue compared to non-sandboxed apps. Plus the added security issues and stability on bleeding edge systems is good.

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47 points

I love flatpak. It makes it easier for Linux to become mainstream.

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43 points

As a non-technical user: fucking love it.

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As a semi-technical user: I also fucking love it. It gets out of the way so I can focus my time on my work and not OS maintenance.

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36 points

@tet its great because you can listen to people whine about it now instead of systemd

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The two whines are not mutually exclusive. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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@kingmongoose7877 until someone tells me another way to run 2 python apps one which requires python 2 and one which requires python 3, on the same system, which is EASIER than installing a flatpak, im gonna maintain that they have a use case, even if they aren’t idealized package management as we dreamed of

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Easy, tiger. I think you misinterpreted my original reply.

I meant the whining about the two (systemd and flatpak) isn’t strictly OR but may be AND. Have a nice day.

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I think pyenv would be the appropriate tool for doing a native install. And of course when it comes to CLI, Flatpak isn’t really for that.

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Uh. Python is like the worst example for this, conda/mamba?

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Cheese with your whines?

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You should use WINE only through Flatpak btw

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Speaking of which, didja hear that for the upcoming Easter holiday, Amazon is offering a special gift basket of northern Israeli cheeses.

They’re calling it Cheeses of Nazareth.

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3 points

Are you trying to start a war? Hopefully no one mentions wayland vs xorg else it might go nuclear

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@squid_slime let me install this flatpak of kde wayland on my oracle unbreakable kernel running under redhat enterprise

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That’s like two keystrokes in emacs.

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35 points

It’s fantastic, for two reasons:

  • There’s so much great software available through it, and I can always get the latest version regardless of my distro - or an older version if it hasn’t kept up with its dependencies.
  • It’s part of the tooling that allows me to update my operating system without risk of it breaking (i.e. I can use an atomic distro because of it).
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