Happens about February-March of every election year (the, ahem, independent media goes out of its way to induce it). Get ready for the next lib wave, and a bunch of iterations of the following script, which they’ve been practicing since like 1999:
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- “Eh, I disagree with [Democrat candidate] on a lot of things, but to pretend he’s not better than [Republican candidate] is just delusional.”
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- “Yeah, I know [Democratic candidate] is a war criminal and complicit in a genocide, but have you considered that [Republican candidate] is a war criminal as well, plus he said rude things about [minority group]? In the interest of harm reduction for Americans only, I have a duty to vote Democrat.”
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- “Your vote actually does matter.”
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- “The only reason the Democrats aren’t Wholesome Progressive Scandinavian Model Chungus is because they have to play politics with the Republicans. You have to recognize the reality of a two-party system.”
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- “We can push the Democrats left.”
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- “Such-and-such Democratic policy (usually the Affordable Care Act) was actually really progressive.”
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- “My [minority group] partner, whom I’ve never mentioned up to this point and very possibly just made up, is voting Democrat.” (This tactic also gets used by libs defending porn and/or prostitution, e.g. “my totally-real girlfriend loves it when I post videos of us having sex online”).
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- “If even one less person dies because [Democratic candidate] is in office, it’s my moral duty to vote for [Democratic candidate]. I am a mature, compassionate person who absolutely understands socialism.”
Been plenty of these showing up in a bunch of threads already. One even had a lemmygrad account!
We can push the Democrats left.
To quote the Seppo Declaration of Independence, “all experience hath shewn”
“For the past fifty years we’ve been relentlessly pushing the Democrats left, and now with Joe Biden we have the most progressive administration in US history” (shuts ears and proceeds to ignore FDR, who whatever his faults at least didn’t arm Nazis).
While FDR didn’t arm nazis, I did find this:
https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/why-fdr-wouldnt-condemn-hitler
I can somewhat understand FDR’s possible reasoning, but regardless.
I fucking hate living in this shithole man every fucking two years it’s like this. TWO YEARS.
We’re def gonna need to shut down anyone who wanders in here on a ‘lesser evilism’ kick, while educating them about the complete sham / theatre piece that is bourgeois democracy.
shut down as ban them (temp or perminent) or shut down as in everyone one dog piles them
I’m just so checked out of American party politics at this point I don’t even notice it. It’s like full circle - you start as an “apolitical” lib from indoctrination, go through the radlib phase, and end up an “apolitical” Marxist.
This kind of reminds me of how Robert Jordan, the main character of for whom the bell tolls, describes his political journey.
He started out as an excited and enthusiastic socialist, getting into debates, building all these specific convictions, but time starts to wear them all away, and eventually the only one he has left is: “I want to kill fascists, and I’ll work with anyone who helps me do so.”
Re: debate, it certainly gets tiresome when you sink hours into reading, research, and sometimes having to go through the pain of reevaluating a significant part of your worldview (cause of indoctrination) which is no small feat and no small ask of time and energy - and then deal with stubborn, smug liberals who dismiss what you say out of hand and repeat the same few talking points yet view themselves as “independent thinkers.” 😩
